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Hi Jan, > Either the primary circuit is grossly out of tune with the secondary, or there is a shorted turn in the secondary coil, removing the energy. I am increasingly suspicious this is my problem. I am building a winding jig based on a design I found, and have bought more form and magnet wire. If the second coil doesn't work, it's either not the problem - or I'm so terrible at this I should take up a different hobby! > One good way of checking the resonance was suggested by Antonio M. Querios, to feed a low frequency square wave, A frequency generator seems to be in order for my Christmas wish-list... Thanks, Joshua Thomas On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 6:35 AM Jan Ohlsson <jan@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Joshua, > That is a nice setup, It should work. > > The NST and spark gap are proven ok by your tests, so no problems there. > Your MMC is also of proven design, with good caps. Either the primary > circuit is grossly out of tune with the secondary, or there is a shorted > turn in the secondary coil, removing the energy. > > The JavaTC simulator is surprisingly accurate, if the input values are > correctly given. It should give you the number of primary turns for > resonance within a quarter turn or so. > > One good way of checking the resonance was suggested by Antonio M. > Querios, to feed a low frequency square wave, for example 60 Hz, to the > primary circuit through a series resistor, and put the scope across this > resistor, with the spark gap shorted. This is a measurement of the primary > current waveform. At resonance you will get the typical damped oscillations > on the underlying square wave, with max ringing amplitude when primary and > secondary resonance frequency are equal. A shorted turn in the secondary > would of of course prevent the ringing. > > The resonance frequency will change somewhat when the coil is run in the > normal way, because of ionized air around the top load, but not much. > > Regards, > Jan > > Skickat från min iPad > > > 1 nov. 2021 kl. 04:31 skrev Joshua Thomas <joshuafthomas@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > > Hello TCML! > > > > I'm having trouble with my first tesla coil. The specifications are as > > follows: > > > > * 12/30 Transco NST, GFCI removed > > * Primary coil: 0.25" copper tubing in flat spiral, 0.5" between turns, > > total 12 turns, 12" total radius from center. Height adjustable. > > * Secondary coil: 3.5" x 16" on PVC form, 28ga magnet wire, ~ 1100 turns > > * Topload: 4" dia flex PVC ducting torus, total diameter 18", 10" plywood > > center. Entire form covered with conductive copper tape. > > * Capacitor bank: 15x CDE 942C20P15K-F caps in series. 30kV rating, total > > 10 nF. 10M ohm 1/2W bleeder resistors across each. > > * Static spark gap of 4x 1" copper tube, microwave AC fan used for > quenching > > * RF grounding rod of 1 ft, solid 1" copper, with 14 ga connection wire > > * Safety gap calibrated with variac to be just above normal firing > voltage > > * Safety lowpass RC filter (aka ''Terry" filter) of 500 ohm, 100W > wirewound > > resistor and 3x 15kV, 1nF ceramic caps (parallel); one RC set per HV > line. > > F_cutoff ~ 106kHz > > * All HV connections made with 14ga GTO-15 wire. > > > > I've simulated this with JavaTC and it gives me a matching resonant > > frequencies around 230 kHz. > > > > First test was today. Spark gap works like a charm, banging away. Safety > > gap occasionally fires. Nothing at all on the secondary or topload. No > > corona, no arcs, CFL bulb put near the coil did not light up. A breakout > > point was attached, and a large metal object was put near it, and still > > nothing. > > > > Trouble shooting: > > * Removed the Terry filter. No change. > > * Changed tap point on primary coil from turn 8 to turn 7, no change. > > * Continuity checks on the secondary show normal, from topload to > grounding > > strap. > > > > Thoughts: > > * My secondary coil is kind of terrible. First one I ever wound, and it > has > > some wire overlaps. > > * A second check of my simulation suggests I should actually be using the > > entire primary coil instead of tapping at turn 8 of 12. Dunno why I did > > that. Would that have this much of an effect? > > * The RF grounding on this confuses me a little. I have a large metal > strip > > attached to the bottom of the secondary. This has connections "in" from > the > > safety gap and the terry filter, and "out" to the RF ground rod hammered > > into the earth. Is this how this is supposed to be wired? > > > > Thanks in advance for any advice etc. Glad a list like this exists, as no > > one in my department at the university (I'm a physics major) has any idea > > how TCs work. > > > > Joshua Thomas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Joshua Thomas > > > > My new email address is: joshuafthomas@xxxxxxxxx > > Please update your information if you have not already done so. > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list -- tcml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to tcml-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list -- tcml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to tcml-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- Joshua Thomas My new email address is: joshuafthomas@xxxxxxxxx Please update your information if you have not already done so.