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Re: [TCML] Variac ballancing chokes re-visited



The balancing choke from what I remember acts as a common-mode rejection
ratio device. An increase in current draw on one side increases (boosts)
voltage to the other, thus re-equalizing. For two variac's, it's wired as
a 'center-tapped' transformer, so that the 'free' ends of each winding are
out of phase with each other. In fact, I've heard of folks using an old
variac core and winding their own. Usually 10-15 turns for each 'leg'. The
wiper's connect to the leg of each winding of the balance transformer, and
the combined output is via the 'center-tap'. (Factors in eddy-current
differences...) The classic diagram shows TWO transformers, however the
balancing winding is 'cross-connected' in order to place the current load
out of phase. A single center-tap design is a lot simpler!

- b





> I came across this web page after using goggle.
>
> http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/u/bunnykiller/parallel.html
>
>  It refers to my "A)" scenario as I suspected  was presented by
> "bunnykiller".  "Connection 3" (on the right side of the page) seems like
> the best method because each 'choke' has a dedicated winding in
> correspondence to each variac.  Therefore a 30A variac passes thru a #8
> wire
> winding (well within the current capacity of the wire). Can someone
> clarify
> the winding direction in relation to the H1,H2 winding and H3,H4 winding.
> I
> see it as if it were one center tapped winding H2 and H3 would be tied
> together and be the center tap, is this correct?The other scenario I
> presented used 2 chokes to feed a 3rd choke, which would see 90A max thru
> #8
> wire. Probably a bit too much stress.
> On a side note I'll look into 'IMGUR.com' Nicholas, thanks. Yes it's good
> to
> be coiling in Wisconsin and hear from a member I've met. Thanks to
> everyone
> who responded.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MICHAEL HARDY" <mhardy4@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 9:59 PM
> Subject: [TCML] Variac ballancing chokes re-visited
>
>
> In my power control cabinet I have a 3 stack variac consisting of 3 X 520
> V,
> 30 A units. I was using one homemade balancing choke made from a 10 A, 240
> V
> variac core wound with 2 sets of 9 turns of #8 wire for balancing 2 of the
> 3
> stack variacs. I now wish to use all 3  in the stack. I have made 2 more
> similar balancing chokes from burned out
> 10 A, 240 V cores. I have seen 2 schemes for wiring these. Here's a shot
> at
> an asci drawing of each.
>
> A)      ________________________
>         I         __              ___          I
>         I        I    I            I      I         I
>         UUUU        UUUU        UUUU
>         --------          --------        ---------            The V1,V2,
> V3
> are the variac wipers (outputs)
>      _ --------      _ --------       _ ---------`            I think this
> was done by Matt D. (bunnykiller)
>  V1  UUUU  V2  UUUU   V3 UUUU
>                 I_________I_________I
>                                 I
>                              OUTPUT
>
>
> B)
>
>
>                                         V2
>                                         I
>                 --------------------    I        -------------------
>  V1_____ -------------------- __ I____ -------------------  _______  V3
>                 UUUU  UUUU            UUUU  UUUU
>                           I                               I
>                           I                               I
>                           I  --------------------------   I
>                           I  --------------------------   I
>                           UUUU________UUUU
>                                           I
>                                           I
>                                     OUTPUT
>
> Are both methods equally effective or is one preferred over the other?
>
> I would appreciate any comments,
>
> Thanks
>
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