# Re: [TCML] Tuning primary to secondary with a scope

I have never used a scope to tune a coil, but I have used my Fluke multimeter. I have a secondary coil wrapped around some PVC and I have a number of primaries built in different sizes and different configurations. The two are built separately so that I can quickly change them around and test things. I hooked my voltmeter between the 2 ends of the secondary and was able to read a voltage. My input voltage on the primary is 3.5v from a PC driven function generator(Hantek). Yes, only 3.5v at 50 ohms resistance. After sweeping for a frequency to get the highest possible voltage, I managed to get about 130v. Now, I'm no genius or anything, but if an input at 3.5v gets me 130v, then an input of 15,000v should get 557,142V.
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1) You can use off the shelf measuring equipment to get a better understanding of cause and effect between primary and secondary. As long as you use low input voltage on the primary. 2) You can physically manipulate the position between primary and secondary to see if it makes any difference. With real time feedback on my meter I was surprised how little I had to move the primary to get differences of up to 25% in my secondary output voltage. I was also surprised about the best position of the primary in relation to the secondary. For instance, normally the primary is located at the very bottom of the secondary. The secondary being wrapped on a PVC pipe mounted vertically. Well, I moved my primary up about 1/5th the way of the secondary and obtained a 20% increase on the secondary voltage. I had no idea. The low input voltage makes it possible to handle the primary safely and with a lot of flexibility. 3) You can compare on different styles of primaries and different lengths with great ease and speed. 4) The best secondary length to frequency relationship came out to 18%. Tesla suggests an estimate of 25% (Pretty good estimate for a man working in the 18th century) 5) My Fluke meter has a frequency reader. The frequency between the ends of the secondary are exactly the same as the input on the primary. Admittedly, I only have had about 6hrs to play around on the above topic, but it is of extreme interest to me. I would appreciate any thoughts or experimental results from other members.
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Jason Dunphy

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