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RE: [TCML] Need a NY based electrical expert.
Several of us have already spoken to Zoe off-list, and even given them a reference to a very fine coil to demonstrate (the best in the area). But the builder was not an EE, I assume that is why they are asking again. I certainly wish them luck, but their insurance companies self imposed rules (must be a Masters EE) has reduced them from demonstrating a coil with 16 foot arcs by a true "master" builder (no pun intended); to one that makes 30 inches on a very good day, by someone who may or may not ever built a coil before. I've talked to a lot of PHDs, and I know experience is everything (some of my Professors could build decent coils, some could not name half the necessary parts, they have the same training, just not the same "field experience"). That is why people are going off about people with masters degrees, it is after all, just a piece of paper (I have a degree as well, so far it is pretty useless). I would also point out that Peter Terren, whom I'm pretty sure is not an electrical engineer (he's a medical doctor), has done demonstrations for Discovery channel a few times. I would suggest that the documentary people double check and make sure their are no insurance loopholes, as it is quite possible that they have the same insurance as the Discovery channel people, and they got away with it with Peter (although that was Canada.) Once again I wish them much luck, but since this is the second time asking, it would seem to me that chances are kind of slim. If they reduced their requirement to a Bachelors degree (and included not just EE but physics, general engineering, EET, chemistry, science; anything technically oriented or scientifically geared, or simply put an X years of experience tag,) I'm sure they would quickly find somebody, and they would be more than competent.
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:01:33 -0400
> From: daniel_kline@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx; zoejwmproductions@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Need a NY based electrical expert.
> I don't get you guys:
> A person writes the list asking for the use of a Tesla-coil in their
> local area. For whatever reason, there's no coil in the area, or no one
> responds, or no one volunteers a coil, so the person asking for help
> cluelessly buys what's on the market.
> Then, the person asks for someone to help put the thing together...
> Hmmm...who would likely be the most knowledgeable person to get help
> from? An EE?? No way! Let's get someone with a Ph.D in 14th Century
> Florentine funerary urns!
> The person's just asking for help. This is the same as a person asking,
> "Can I use aluminum wire to wind my secondary?" And everyone replying,
> "Aluminum bites!" or "Yeah, aluminum. Heh. Right". Yay, sarcasm. *Not*
> At least an EE would know who to ask (maybe this list???) or where to do
> the research.
> I'm a little embarrassed that someone (Zoe Couacaud, a non-tech woman, I
> presume) asked the list for help and got this attitude.
> (What you're all saying is probably true, but this type of response
> would have me abandoning this resource, which would be bad, if I was in
> Zoe's situation)
> Dan K.
> David Rieben wrote:
> > That's like letting someone with a masters in mechanical
> > engineering, who's never held a socket wrench, ATTEMPT
> > to rebuild the transmission of the family car. Good luck!!
> > David Rieben
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "DC Cox" <resonance@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Need a NY based electrical expert.
> >> Someone with a masters in EE that has never built a coil before is
> >> going to
> >> build a kit in 6 hrs?
> >> heh heh heh should have saved this one for April 1st.
> >> Dr. Resonance
> >> On 3/11/08, Russell L Thornton <Russell.L.Thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> Careful, Jeff! I have a master's degree in EE but then again I avoid
> >>> any
> >>> supervisory work like the plague.
> >>> Come to think of it I avoid supervion too... Hmmmm!?!?
> >>> Russell at the Cape
> >>> P.S. I'd love to hear the story though.
> >>> >tee hee hee
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Remind me to tell you guys the story of the electrical "expert" from
> >>> Perdue
> >>> >University hired by Universal Studios to supervise our work at the
> >>> Orlando
> >>> >theme park... A howling funny tale of experts with master's degrees...
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