Re: bummed

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Original poster: "Paul B. Brodie" <pbbrodie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Scot,
Steven made some mistakes making his caps but having a single layer with 2 
conductors separated by a dielectric is not one of them. You are mistaken 
in saying that caps have to have multiple layers. They don't. How many 
layers do you think are in a little ceramic cap?
Paul Brodie
Think Positive
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Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: bummed

> Original poster: BunnyKiller <<mailto:bunikllr@xxxxxxx>bunikllr@xxxxxxx>
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> Steven...
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> I finally got around to looking at your pictures...
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> Im gonna be real "critical"  maybe even harsh  heck maybe insultive... 
BUT ...
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> reading your last post before this one about trying your caps to test them
> out  ???   umm  what was that you had as far as caps?  2 tupperware
> containers lined with foil?
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> do you have any idea what caps are?  Caps are MULTIPLE  layers of
> dielectric ( insulator) and conductive material layered in such a manner
> that the layers are  seperated by the insultor are next to each other in
> MULTIPLE  layers   ( like 30 - 50 layers for homemade caps)    what I saw
> was a tupperware container with 1 layer of aluminum....    no way enuf
> capacitance  to even work on the coil you designed....   as I sed in my
> previous post... spend the money on a good cap set    be it a MMC or
> something from Ebay  (  best bet a Maxwell Cap)    you can not be cheap on
> the cap   no way around it ...   homemade caps will cost you more in the
> long run than buying "real" commercially made cap set....
> and how do I know this???  I have made 3 styles of homemade caps and the
> money I spent on making them was 5X more than what I spent on a set of
> commercially made "Ebay" bought caps...
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> I seriously suggest you should do some research on cap design before you go
> any further in your coiling ...   really hate to see a prospective coiler
> drop from the ever growing list but without some kind of desire to take the
> time to learn and understand what you are dealing with,,,,,   Id rather see
> you leave coiling due to not understanding the "system" than to see you
> leave coiling due to a hi volt contact mishap....    sorry to be so
> vocal     but I had to...     you are eager to accomlish a coil but not
> disciplined enuf to understand the overall picture and dangers...
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> take a step back   listen to what has been said to you and take heed of
> what you are getting into    READ ALL of the Tesla Coil Ring Web Sites (
> and you will notice that 90% have a disclaimer about death distruction and
> electrocution)  WE ARE NOT KIDDING about this....   even a MOT can kill
> you....
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> dont be so eager to accomplish something without learninng about it
> be eager to learn about it first    applying what you have learned is more
> rewarding than accomplishing something without the knowledge....
> anybody can break something   but it takes a person with knowledge to make
> something....
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> Scot D
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> Tesla list wrote:
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>>Original poster: "Steven Steele" 
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>>I'm bummed cuz i tried my tc and id did exactly what i expected it to do,
>>nothing. I can't find out what the resonant freq is. i don't even know
>>that my retarted tc even has one. i aint got a clue as to the math i need
>>if i were to go about getting my caps oriented to whatever freq i ned to
>>put them at. basically, i'm up the creek without a paddle, and theres
>>probbly a waterfall.
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>>            Steven Steele
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