Original poster: "mf31 by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <mf31-at-qwest-dot-net> ok, another question. would these be useful for coiling? <http://cgi.ebay-dot-com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1720069416>http://cgi.e bay-dot-com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1720069416 thanks, dan.