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I would potentially be interested. $300 is a little steep, but it's really difficult to find good quality aluminum spheroids at that size.

Cheers,
Troy.

On 09/02/17 07:49, Finn Hammer wrote:
All,

I am not sure if this is of interest, since the original request was for
bockwurst shaped collectors, however....

I have had some topload shells made at my friendly local spinning shop,
they are made from 1,5mm alluminium, and 360mm in major diametre.
Top part is a nice fat squat half-pseudosphere, bottom part curves in
from equator to 90 degrees with a 60mm radius, then transmorphs into a
40mm radius for 90 degrees up into the hole, which consequently attains a
160mm diametre.
Functions well with a 80mm wide belt on a Ø 100mm pulley, and running
this at 3000 rpm has delivered +60µA, with downbelt charging comb in
place.
If there was a sufficient interest, I could run a batch.
Price 300USD + shipping from Denmark

Cheers, Finn hammer

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Fra: Matthew Sweeney <msweeney23@xxxxxxxxx>
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Dato: Ons, 08. feb 2017 20:23
Emne: Re: [TCML] VDG Collector

I ran into this same problem, but I found a cheap and easy solution
that
seemed to solve the problems for me:

1. Make sure the collector is approx 4-5 feet off the ground, away
from any
areas that could contribute to leakage (such as the motor, any sharp
points
etc.)
2. Cover the edges of the hole with electrical tape, then press on a
small
soft vinyl tube cut lengthwise.
3. This is the important part - Find some form of 1 inch wide rubber
material, thicker if possible, and wrap it tightly around the top of
the
column right where it enters the collector, so the entrance hole is
'sitting' on it. The goal is to create a torus of sorts where the
collector
can rest. I went for about 1 inch depth but I don't remember the
exact
number of turns.
4. Now wrap the rubber torus with electrical tape (tightly) to keep
it nice
and solid and also to reduce any sharp edges. You really want to do a
good
job here the end result should look like a smooth solid torus made of
electrical tape.


This seems to create a corona ring of sorts, but of course this is
non-conductive - I don't know why it works so well, but it completely
solved any leakage problem I was having.

Matt


On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:26 AM, ExtremeElectronics.co.uk <
tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The biggest issue, is the hole where the belt comes through. If you
can
make that a gradual curve, or can make the belt small in relation
to the
diameter of the bowls they are great.

My design has the down side of a large belt-hole and a not very
well
smoothed entry, If I could improve this I would get a much better
output.
Although on a good day It will arc from top to bottom, roughly
800mm
I can't say what the change rate is, I did measure it when I built
it, and
I've improved the charging a number of times since, but I can't
find any
reference to the figures in my notes.

The motor is small Como drills 191D, 12V ~ 3A, geared 2:1, but has
plenty
of power for the job, the belt runs at around 3M/Second flat out.

Derek


On 08-Feb-17 02:51, Matthew Sweeney wrote:

I've been able to get 3 foot sparks using two of those 14" Ikea
bowls..
They work extremely well.



On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Ed <evp@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Awesome! Looks like a small motor - how long does it take to
charge
enough for a spark? Have you measured the output current?

Ed


On 2/6/2017 2:27 PM, ExtremeElectronics.co.uk wrote:

I made mine from two Ikea bowls, a sheet of aluminium and loads
of
filler.

http://www.extremeelectronics.co.uk/static-machines/1mv-van-
de-graff-project-2/

Commercial ones like that would cost a fortune to manufacture.
Your only
other option would be see if they sell spares. Or contact a
friendly
metal
spinning shop.

Derek


On 06-Feb-17 20:39, doug wrote:

Can anyone tell me where I might find a sausage shaped top load
like the
one pictured in this website?
http://wikivisually.com/wiki/File:Van_De_Graaff_gen_03.jpg

Doug J.
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