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All, I am not sure if this is of interest, since the original request was for bockwurst shaped collectors, however.... I have had some topload shells made at my friendly local spinning shop, they are made from 1,5mm alluminium, and 360mm in major diametre. Top part is a nice fat squat half-pseudosphere, bottom part curves in from equator to 90 degrees with a 60mm radius, then transmorphs into a 40mm radius for 90 degrees up into the hole, which consequently attains a 160mm diametre. Functions well with a 80mm wide belt on a Ø 100mm pulley, and running this at 3000 rpm has delivered +60µA, with downbelt charging comb in place. If there was a sufficient interest, I could run a batch. Price 300USD + shipping from Denmark Cheers, Finn hammer ----- Original meddelelse ----- > Fra: Matthew Sweeney <msweeney23@xxxxxxxxx> > Til: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Dato: Ons, 08. feb 2017 20:23 > Emne: Re: [TCML] VDG Collector > > I ran into this same problem, but I found a cheap and easy solution > that > seemed to solve the problems for me: > > 1. Make sure the collector is approx 4-5 feet off the ground, away > from any > areas that could contribute to leakage (such as the motor, any sharp > points > etc.) > 2. Cover the edges of the hole with electrical tape, then press on a > small > soft vinyl tube cut lengthwise. > 3. This is the important part - Find some form of 1 inch wide rubber > material, thicker if possible, and wrap it tightly around the top of > the > column right where it enters the collector, so the entrance hole is > 'sitting' on it. The goal is to create a torus of sorts where the > collector > can rest. I went for about 1 inch depth but I don't remember the > exact > number of turns. > 4. Now wrap the rubber torus with electrical tape (tightly) to keep > it nice > and solid and also to reduce any sharp edges. You really want to do a > good > job here the end result should look like a smooth solid torus made of > electrical tape. > > > This seems to create a corona ring of sorts, but of course this is > non-conductive - I don't know why it works so well, but it completely > solved any leakage problem I was having. > > Matt > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:26 AM, ExtremeElectronics.co.uk < > tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > The biggest issue, is the hole where the belt comes through. If you > can > > make that a gradual curve, or can make the belt small in relation > to the > > diameter of the bowls they are great. > > > > My design has the down side of a large belt-hole and a not very > well > > smoothed entry, If I could improve this I would get a much better > output. > > Although on a good day It will arc from top to bottom, roughly > 800mm > > > > I can't say what the change rate is, I did measure it when I built > it, and > > I've improved the charging a number of times since, but I can't > find any > > reference to the figures in my notes. > > > > The motor is small Como drills 191D, 12V ~ 3A, geared 2:1, but has > plenty > > of power for the job, the belt runs at around 3M/Second flat out. > > > > Derek > > > > > > On 08-Feb-17 02:51, Matthew Sweeney wrote: > > > >> I've been able to get 3 foot sparks using two of those 14" Ikea > bowls.. > >> They work extremely well. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Ed <evp@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Awesome! Looks like a small motor - how long does it take to > charge > >>> enough for a spark? Have you measured the output current? > >>> > >>> Ed > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2/6/2017 2:27 PM, ExtremeElectronics.co.uk wrote: > >>> > >>> I made mine from two Ikea bowls, a sheet of aluminium and loads > of > >>>> filler. > >>>> > >>>> http://www.extremeelectronics.co.uk/static-machines/1mv-van- > >>>> de-graff-project-2/ > >>>> > >>>> Commercial ones like that would cost a fortune to manufacture. > Your only > >>>> other option would be see if they sell spares. Or contact a > friendly > >>>> metal > >>>> spinning shop. > >>>> > >>>> Derek > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 06-Feb-17 20:39, doug wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Can anyone tell me where I might find a sausage shaped top load > like the > >>>>> one pictured in this website? > >>>>> http://wikivisually.com/wiki/File:Van_De_Graaff_gen_03.jpg > >>>>> > >>>>> Doug J. > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Tesla mailing list > >>>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Tesla mailing list > >>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Tesla mailing list > >>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > >>> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> Tesla mailing list > >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > >> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla Mvh. 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