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Hi Phil,thanks! You are right, close gap clearances on rotary gaps seem to be important, I observed this some years ago on a SRSG, running 200bps @ 3000rpm. But always was wondering about this, because the arc ignites long before the electrodes are coming together. The firing voltage on my new rotary will be arround 26kV so maybe close gap clearance will not be so important. We will see! Yes, the experiments will show, if the brass holders for the stationary tungsten electrodes are able to take the heat away properly. If not, it's not a big deal to change them for massive copper pieces oder aluminum heat sinks. Your idea with the air movement control is pretty cool! Will have to keep this in mind. But the air movement the disc produces @ 4000rpm is incredible :-)
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To: "'Tesla Coil Mailing List'" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:07 AMSubject: Re: [TCML] Finished: New 600bps Rotary,Power Controller + Variac for DC resonant charging TC
Stefan, That's a very nice, sturdy RSG you have built, especially as it is never easy getting an outrigger bearing to align easily, but with the revs you are using it is a good idea! A setup like that should allow some close gap clearances as well which I always thinks helps. (I run 10 thou clearance @ 6 - 7 Kw 3000 rpm). If you do get overheating problems you will find a switch to copper electrodes will have a vast difference, as the thermal conductivity of brass is not very good (copper being about 10 times higher I think). The rotary ones rarely get any heat to them, but the stationeries tend to ablate mostly, presumably made worse because they are not cooled as much. I use approx' 8 inch tall one inch diam' copper bars as terminal posts, and recently did some experiments with smoke to find the air movement paths on mine, and you may find a carefully sited piece of Lexan to act as a wind shield will direct the rotor draft towards the stationary terminal posts. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/33962508@N03/15318168107/ The black Lexan piece slides across in front of the stationeries and directs the substantial draft sideways) Nice to see a motor driven variac in use, but the thought of "overkill" comes to mind :-)) Regards Phil Tuck www.hvtesla.com -----Original Message----- From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Teslalabor Sent: 19 October 2014 18:53 To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCML] Finished: New 600bps Rotary, Power Controller + Variac for DC resonant charging TC Hello all, as announced some weeks ago, I now want to show you my current proceedings with my DC resonant charging teslacoil. I just finished the rotary spark gap, motor driven 3-phase variac which feeds the high voltage transformer and also the power control box. Here is a video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVpRE38UXqE The rotary is made of a 450W DC Motor with a maximum speed of 12500rpm. The speed is controlled by a variac. The disc-diameter is 25cm, equipped with 6 tungsten rods, each 6mm in diameter. The motor has a tacho generator on its shaft, which feeds a speedometer in the control box. So this gives me an absolutely precise measurement of both, disc speed AND bps! The meter reading, which has a scale from 0 - 10, is just this simple: x1000 = rpm's x100 = bps The rotary consists of 4 stationary electrodes, mounted to massive brass columns, 2 on each side of the disc, which results in a total of 4 spark gaps. I think, this in combination with the high speed / low dwell times will have some positive effects on the quenching properties of the gap and very low speeds will be possible without igniting a firewheel. In the video the rotary is accelerated up to 4000rpm (400bps) which is the target bps for my system, where the maximum power will be processed, but also up to 6000rpm are possible I think. Dwell time at 4000rpm is 252µs, at 6000rpm it's 168µs. But I should be aware of the following: Each electrode weights 42,736g, so at 4000rpm it's weight rises to 86,7kg, at 6000rpm already 195,1kg! At the moment I'm happy with 400bps, maybe I shouldn't try more rpm's with that calculations in mind :-))) The 3-phase motor variac can also be controlled with the control-box, voltage can be cranked up and down automatically and stopped at every voltage. Regards, Stefan _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxhttp://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
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