Re: Golka video: Ball Lightning in lab. WHAT?!!!!!

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Original poster: "Malcolm Watts" <m.j.watts@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

On 19 Jun 2005, at 12:30, Tesla list wrote:

> Original poster: "Chris Rutherford" <chris1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> True, Lightning is fundamentally DC, however it has a very fast rise
> time to peak current.  Also there is still a limited understanding of
> lightning, i.e. If its DC discharging all charge in one huge pulse,
> then how can it strike multiple times (why is there charge left?)
> Some say the lightning creates a magnetic field (fast rise time) that
> *quenches* the *arc* before it's had time to fully discharge.  These
> rise times and *impulses* may have harmonics that can induce currents
> in any surrounding metal objects, such as electronic equipment or
> powerlines.  Some combination of the above creates ball lightning.
>
> See this website, they are leaders in lightning surge protection.
>
> http://www.polyphaser.com/ppc_TD1019.aspx
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris

I may stand to be corrected but one eyewitness account I heard
related directly indicated that a lightning strike was not necessary
for BL to form. A significant problem with BL research is that there
appears to be no tabulated data indicating environmental similarities
or differences between accounts (one can pick the odd factor out of
course) and to most people to whom this really matters (us!) few have
seen it and probably no more than once. I am inclined to think that
the only major similarity between R. Golka's burning iron expts and
natural BL is the formation of a ball.

Malcolm

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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> To:
> <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 2:03 AM Subject: Re:
> Golka video: Ball Lightning in lab. WHAT?!!!!!
>
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> >Original poster: William Beaty <billb@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Tesla list wrote:
> >
> > > However I believe ball lightning is an AC phenomena, and the Golka
> > >
> > video > is
> > > DC,
> >
> >
> >IIRC, natural lightning is totally DC, and a shorted battery bank
> >*might* be a closer match than a Tesla coil.  I'll have to double
> >check this (I think the Martin Uman book LIGHTNING has the waveforms
> >of the transient fields during lightning strikes, perhaps even
> >currents.)
> >
> >
> > >  and I'd imagine what he is generating is bits of molten metal,
> > >  and not
> > > ball lightning.  - I could be wrong.
> >
> >That's the issue.  Unless you're on a slow modem, check out that
> >video:  http://www.eskimo.com/~bilb/GolkaBL.wmv  (30 megs)
> >
> >The "welding spatter" skittering around on the watter appears to be
> >glowing beads about 7mm in diameter, but they shrink enormously as
> >time goes by, perhaps to 10x smaller diameter.
> >
> >
> >If someday I have a way to create those same "welding spatter" beads,
> >I'll try casting their shadows on a frosted screen.  As with the
> >shadow of a candle flame, it will eliminate any "illusions" and make
> >the diameter measurable.  It will also prove whether or not there is
> >a liquid metal droplet buried in the center of the (larger?) glowing
> >sphere.
> >
> >
> > > AFIK Tesla had a problem with ball lightning, they are allegedly
> > related > to
> > > a resonance of E fields, all oscillating around one another to
> > > create a ball, imagine a Fourier series in 3 dimensions....
> >
> >My suspicions exactly.   But such a thing might be created by a DC
> >pulse from a battery bank.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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