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Re: Relay Problem - Chattering



Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <dhmccauley-at-spacecatlighting-dot-com>


 > In the control circuit Dan supplied, one of the contact paths of the relay
 > supplies current to the relay coil after the momentary button is released.
 > The flexible conductor which connects from the relay armature to it's lug
 > or terminal might be suspect as might be the solder joints that attach
this
 > wire at either end. Also could be loose or severely pitted contacts (high
 > resistance).
 >
 > I would remove the relay from its circuit then connect an ohm meter to
both
 > sides of this path while holding the relay in the closed (energized)
 > position. Gently wiggle the flexible conductor and/or tap the relay on the
 > bench while observing the meter; it should not flinch. I prefer an analog
 > over a digital meter for this test. You should observe zero ohms at all
 > times. If the contacts are pitted, dirty try cleaning them.
 >
 > Might also try the above on the relay coil too. It's resistance will not
be
 > zero but it should remain consistent.
 >
 > I'm assuming that this component is a true relay rather than a contactor
 > but the above tests should hold true for the same except that a contactor
 > will have a brass or copper bridge between the contacts rather that a
 > flexible conductor. Still, look for anything physically amiss; broken,
 > bent, cracked, pitted and so on.
 >
 > There's always a chance that the control power supply is corrupt and the
 > relay is getting a bad rap!

Thanks for the reply.  The power supply is line voltage (120VAC) and at this
time is only powering an AC cooling fan at the same time.
During chattering, the voltage seems to drop and the fan will slow down
during this period.

I'll try your tips above.

Thanks again.

Dan





 > Daniel
 >
 > "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> on 01/15/2003 07:32:53 PM
 >
 > To:    tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 > cc:
 > Subject:    Re: Relay Problem - Chattering
 >
 >
 >
 > Original poster: "Ben McMillen by way of Terry Fritz
<teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>"
 > <spoonman534-at-yahoo-dot-com>
 >
 > Hi all,
 >     The main power relay in my power contoller seems to do
 > the same thing.. sometime I'll energize it and it works
 > just fine.. other times it's like it can't decide if it
 > wants to close or not.. it's rated for 120VAC.. I haven't
 > been able to figure it out either.. :-/
 >
 > Coiling In Pittsburgh
 > Ben McMillen
 >
 > --- Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> wrote:
 >   > Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz
 >   > <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <dhmccauley-at-spacecatlighting-dot-com>
 >   >
 >   > I'm pretty sure its a 120VAC coil.  But i'll double
 >   > check.  I've been known
 >   > to do stupid things like that.
 >   >
 >   > Dan
 >   >
 >   >
 >   >
 >   >
 >   >  > Sounds like it could be a DC coil on that relay and
 >   > you are feeding it AC.
 >   >  >
 >   >  > Regards,
 >   >  > Brian B.
 >   >  >
 >   >  > -----Original Message-----
 >   >  > From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
 >   >  > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:19 PM
 >   >  > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 >   >  > Subject: Relay Problem - Chattering
 >   >  >
 >   >  >
 >   >  > Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz
 >   > <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>"
 >   >  > <dhmccauley-at-spacecatlighting-dot-com>
 >   >  >
 >   >  > I'm currently having a problem with my relay.
 >   >  >
 >   >  > Approximately 20% of the time I try to energize the
 >   > relay, the relay will
 >   >  > begin to chatter and not work correctly.
 >   >  > Since my circuit utilizes a simple latch network, I
 >   > first thought it might
 >   >  > be a feedback oscillation problem, but
 >   >  > after looking at my circuit, didn't really see any
 >   > possible problem.
 >   >  >
 >   >  > Here is my schematic:
 >   >  >
 >   >  >
 >   >
 > http://www.spacecatlighting-dot-com/datasheets/sc2020_sheet2.pdf
 >   >  >
 >   >  > Anyone see a problem, or could this just be a faulty
 >   > relay???
 >   >  >
 >   >  > Any help appreciated.
 >   >  >
 >   >  > Thanks
 >   >  >
 >   >  > Dan
 >   >  >
 >   >  >
 >   >  >
 >   >  >