Re: C of Earth...

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Original poster: "Jim Lux by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>" <jimlux-at-earthlink-dot-net>

Oddly, I had looked up that chronology yesterday... but I couldn't remember
when Tesla was proposing his scheme.

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Subject: Re: C of Earth...


> Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>"
<Mddeming-at-aol-dot-com>
>
> Hi Terry, Jim, All!
>
>         One of the frequent problems encountered when trying to evaluate
> historical events is the tendency to project our own age's knowledge and
> understanding back onto an historical era. For example, since Wardenclyffe
> was dismantled in 1917, it could not have been built to utilize any
> characteristics of the earth or the atmosphere that were unknown prior to
> 1917.
>         Oliver Heaviside and Arthur E Kennelly independently predicted the
> existence of an electrically charged portion of the atmosphere in 1902.
> However, it was not until 1924 that its existence was detected by Edward
V.
> Appleton. The term "ionosphere" was applied to the Kennelly-Heaviside
layer
> even later. It seems unlikely therefore, that Tesla was referring to the
> ionosphere as we now know it, in his experiments either in Colorado
Springs
> or in the construction of Wardenclyffe. I suspect that he was referring to
> that layer of the atmosphere in which thunderstorms originate. This is, of
> course, unless one wants to credit Tesla with being the "true" discoverer
of
> every mathematical and scientific principle of the 19th and 20th
centuries,
> pre-empting everyone from Hertz and Heisenberg to Einstein and
Oppenheimer.
>
> Matt D.
> In a message dated 5/7/01 3:15:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> writes:
>
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> > Original poster: "Terry Fritz" <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>
> >
> > Hi Jim and All,
> >
> > Seeing How Tesla was sort of desperate to get the energy transmission
thing
> > to work, I have been thinking of ways to help out ;-))
> >
> > Assuming unlimited money and the use of modern materials and going off
the
> > real basis for Tesla's power transmission idea:
> >
> >
http://hot-streamer-dot-com/TeslaCoils/OtherPapers/TeslaPatents/us000645576.pdf
> >
> > I was wondering what it would take to get the darn thing working...
> >
> > If I have a transmitting and receiving station 100 miles apart, a 6
meter
> > wide copper sheet stretched between the two stations to solve the ground
> > problem (hey, I can cheat a little ;-)), two big 100 foot diameter
> > metalized balloons reaching to the ionosphere and electrically tethered
> > back to the stations...  There is a fundamental problem.  What is the
> > conductivity of the ionosphere between the two balloons for the
stations.
> > One could probably get say 20 MV up there but if the ionosphere is not
> > going to conduct well the losses are going to kill it despite whatever
else
> > one does.  I assume lightning and other obvious problems are not worth
> > worrying with until this fundamental problem is analyzed.
> >
> > I found a chart at:
> >
> > http://jupiter.agu-dot-org/epubs/jgr_space/ja9905/1999JA900056/f04.html
> >
> > Which implies that the conductivity of the ionosphere is fairly good for
a
> > very high voltage low current system.  However it does not give the
units
> > well unless it is saying 100 ohm/m^3 as a volume resistivity???  This is
a
> > pretty important number to know to within a few orders of magnitude.  If
> > the resistance is too high, we are just going to make pretty lights in
the
> > sky.
> >
> > I can just see the thing making on ionized path between the two stations
as
> > in the picture at:
> >
> > http://www.oma.be/BIRA-IASB/Scientific/Topics/SpacePhysics/Aurora.html
> >
> > Although pretty, this would just be a waste of power for our system and
> > would irritate the locals under it.
> >
> > If the resistance is not too high and the electrical path does not
ionize
> > too wastefully, then one could start worrying about "tuning" something
with
> > a 100 mile streamer running a city at the other end.  But Bill's friends
> > are working that out...  Possibly, a far more difficult hurdle to
> > overcome...  Of course, DC may work fine too but that would sort of
spoil
> > the whole idea.
> >
> > I note that Tesla's Colorado Springs system did not seem terribly
efficient
> > but maybe it just needs a little fixing:
> >
> > http://hot-streamer-dot-com/temp/bulbs.jpg
> >
> > 200 watts of bulbs at 100 feet from a 30kW transmitter with 2500 square
> > feet of receiving antenna is obviously not going to sell :-))  Probably
a
> > bad example...
> >
> > I don't mean to prolong this thread that always seems to go on too long,
> > but maybe we can find a way for it to at least sort of work a little
even
> > though it is not practical to do.  That would help Tesla's memory out if
at
> > least there were a reasonable way the system "could" have worked a
little
> > bit.  Then we could say it is too expensive and "messy" instead of it is
> > impossible.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >    Terry
> >
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