Re: Magnifiers vs. normal TC's, was secondary wavelength

["Albert Hassick" <uncadoc-at-juno-dot-com> (by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>)]

Yes Terry, you are correct!  It would seem that Tesla's notes refer to a
100 foot plus mast/antenna and not the length of  the spark generated by
his coils.  I stand corrected!   AL.


On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 20:41:02 -0600 "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
writes:
> Original poster: Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>
> 
> Hi Al,
> 
> I may be reopening on old wounded myth, but no one has achieved 130 
> foot
> arcs.  This includes Dr. Tesla.  I think Richard Hull's analysis put 
> the
> maximum arc length achieved at Colorado Springs at around 32 feet.  
> This
> number corresponds to Tesla's own records and comments.  His 
> 'dreams' were
> a bit more lengthy...
> 
> http://www.pupman-dot-com/listarchives/1999/December/msg00598.html
> 
> Is an excerpt from last December's discussion on this.  The thread 
> was
> "Tesla's Energy Trans." of last Christmas and they can all be found 
> in the
> archives at:
> 
> www.pupman-dot-com
> 
> I think the record remains with Bill Wysock's model 13 at 55 feet.  
> A
> magnifier with high (125kW Bill doesn't mess around! ;-)) input 
> power and
> no building to get in the way.
> 
> http://www.ttr-dot-com/model13.html
> 
> It is interesting that Bill's coil and Tesla's both closely follow 
> John
> Freau's spark length formula.
> 
> Arc distance in inches = 1.7 x SQRT(input power in watts)
> 
> This implies that a 130 foot arc needs 840,000 watts of drive power.
> Tesla's Colorado lab was an order of magnitude away from having that 
> kind
> of power available.
> 
> Greg Leyh's Advanced Lightning Facility is the largest serious Tesla 
> coil
> project seriously proposed to my knowledge at 5.7MW.  That power 
> implies an
> arc distance of 338 feet and is a phased dual coil system.
> 
> http://www.lod-dot-org/alf.html
> http://www.lod-dot-org
> 
> It's systems like this that need the best "science" possible in the 
> design
> since errors are very expensive!!  A 1/12 scale prototype was in the 
> works
> last I heard.  Of course, these coiler's are a bit beyond us normal 
> folks!
> :-)  So, we have reached Tesla's arc length and beyond.  The 
> technology to
> go far further is there.  It's just a matter of money...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 	Terry
> 
> 
> At 08:15 AM 10/1/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi Jeff.   I wholeheartedly concur with you 100% !   I wish someone 
> out
> >there would produce 130 foot plus arcs!  Maybe someday you or I 
> will! 
> >All I can say is AMEN!    Do I hear the new yet to be released 9th
> >generation intel chips sizzling in the background?  AL.
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:37:35 -0600 "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> >writes:
> >> Original poster: jmonty-at-flash-dot-net 
> >> 
> >> When I get my Colorado Springs sized coil up and running I'll 
> >> critique the shortcomings of Mr. Tesla. Until that time, I'll 
> just 
> >> keep 
> >> believing he knew what he was talking about.
> >> 
> >> Best Regards to all
> >> Jeff Montgomery
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >
> 
>