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Re: Obtaining Nitric Acid for Silver Nitrate Electroplating...

<<<< I never should have let the making nitric acid post through.... sorry
about that.  With Gary's warning here, I am going to kill further electro
plating and acid threads.  I think the electroplating thread has run it's
course.  Terry >>>>


NOTICE:  Do not make your own Nitric Acid unless you want to die.  The
distillation of sulfuric acid and potassium nitrate will produce nitric acid
and large quantities of very dangerious fumes.  About 4 breaths of these
very toxic fumes will kill you.  The fumes create nitric acid in the lungs
and destroys the lungs and you die.  There is no cure.  No doctor can save
you.

If you are determines to have some Nitric Acid, it is sold at any industrial
chemical supply company in 12 gallon plastic containers for $2.00 a gallon.
Check you phone book yellow pages under chemicals.

Nitric acid can be used to nitrate anything to make explosives, cotton,
glycerine, antifreeze, paper, leaves, old shoes.

Many nitrated things are very sensitive and will explode very easy if you
don't know what your doing.  Most people think nitroglycerine is the most
sensitive but that is not true.  RDX and PETN will explode if you touch them
with a feather when the crystal material is dry.

All nitrated explosives must be washed and cleaned to remove all acids and
inpurities and unstable biproducts.  If this is not done correctly the
explosive can self detonate.

My advise is, don't make any home made nitrated explosives.

If you want some explosives you can buy all you want from any explosive
company.  A case of dynamite contains 100 sticks each 1/2 lb. each for about
$100.00 and it comes in 40%, 60%, 80%, 90% and 100% strength.

Gelmax is 100% strength and is basically jellyed nitroglycerine.

How about some plastic explosives or the next best thing.  Put a blasting
cap in a 1 pound can of smokeless gun power.  

Be careful and done get yourself killed or injured.

Gary Weaver










At 07:13 AM 9/5/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Original Poster: "Sam Barros" <sambarros-at-hotmail-dot-com> 
>
>  Max,
>
> Nitric Acid is the main component in just about all explosives and 
>deflagrants (such as gunpowder and nitro-cellulose). Therefore most 
>stores won't sell it to just anyone.
> Well, for some of my "scientific" chemical research on high explosives 
>I came to a barrier when trying to obtain this most precious chemical. 
>Well, this is what I used:
> 
>    NITRIC ACID:
>
>       There are several ways to make this most essential of all acids 
>for explosives. One method by which it could be made will be presented.
> Be reminded, however, that these methods SHOULD NOT BE CARRIED OUT and 
>that if you choose to do so, you'll be accepting a considerable amount 
>or risk at your own responsibility!!
>
>  Materials:                        Equipment:
>
>  sodium nitrate or             adjustable heat source     
>  potassium nitrate
>                                           retort
> distilled water
>                                           ice bath
> concentrated
> sulphuric acid                    stirring rod
>
>                                      collecting flask with stopper
>
>
>1) Pour 32 millilitres of concentrated sulphuric acid into the retort.
>
>2) Carefully weigh out 58 grams of sodium nitrate, or 68 grams of 
>potassium nitrate. And add this to the acid slowly.  If it all does not 
>dissolve, carefully stir the solution with a glass rod until it does.
>
>3) Place the open end of the retort into the collecting flask, and place 
>the collecting flask in the ice bath.
>
>4) Begin heating the retort, using low heat.  Continue heating until 
>liquid begins to come out of the end of the retort.  The liquid that 
>forms is nitric acid.  Heat until the precipitate in the bottom of the 
>retort is almost dry, or until no more nitric acid is forming.  CAUTION: 
>If the acid is heated too strongly, the nitric acid will decompose as 
>soon as it is formed.  This can result in the production of highly 
>flammable and toxic gasses that may explode.  It is a good idea to set 
>the above apparatus up, and then get away from it.
>
> Potassium nitrate could also be obtained from store-bought black 
>powder, simply by dissolving black powder in boiling water and filtering 
>out the sulphur and charcoal. To obtain 68 g of potassium nitrate, it 
>would be necessary to dissolve about 90 g of black powder in about one 
>litre of boiling water. Filter the dissolved solution through filter 
>paper in a funnel into a jar until the liquid that pours through is 
>clear. The charcoal and sulphur in black powder are
>insoluble in water, and so when the solution of water is allowed to 
>evaporate, potassium nitrate will be left in the jar.
> You can also buy potassium nitrate under the name of "Saltpetre", sold 
>in some natural food shops as a healthy salt substitute.
> Concentrated Sulphuric acid can be obtained by boiling the acid found 
>on car batteries until white fumes form.
> Questions, comments and criticism welcome!
>
> Hope this has being of some help...
> P.S. DO NOT add concentrated sulphuric acid to the concentrated Nitric 
>Acid and drop Glycerine on the mixture... Same goes for toluene, 
>mercury... Such explosives, although seemingly easy to make, will 
>explode as soon as formed if the proper cautions are not taken...
> 
>
>
>> Thank you for the information I'll will be looking into it. But that
>>leaves another problem where to get the nitric acid. I've heard it's
>>rather hard to obtain unless you're a chemist.
>>
>>
>>                               Frankensteins Helper
>>                                      Max
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