Re: Coiling Waveforms.

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Subject: Re: Coiling Waveforms.
From: Tesla List <tesla-at-stic-dot-net>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:39:49 -0500
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From: 	John H. Couture[SMTP:couturejh-at-worldnet.att-dot-net]
Sent: 	Wednesday, August 06, 1997 7:05 PM
To: 	Tesla List
Subject: 	Re: Coiling Waveforms.

At 11:14 AM 8/6/97 +0000, you wrote:
>
>From: 	Malcolm Watts[SMTP:MALCOLM-at-directorate.wnp.ac.nz]
>Sent: 	Tuesday, August 05, 1997 6:45 PM
>To: 	tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>Subject: 	Re: Coiling Waveforms.
>
>Hello John,
>                Perhaps I should elaborate a little on my original 
>answer to this question:
> 
>> From:   John H. Couture[SMTP:couturejh-at-worldnet.att-dot-net]
>> Sent:   Tuesday, August 05, 1997 2:48 AM
>> To:     Tesla List
>> Subject:    Re: Coiling Waveforms.
>> 
>> At 04:03 AM 8/4/97 +0000, you wrote:
>> >
>> >From:  Malcolm Watts[SMTP:MALCOLM-at-directorate.wnp.ac.nz]
>> >Sent:  Sunday, August 03, 1997 4:54 PM
>> >To:    tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>> >Subject:   Coiling Waveforms.
>> >
>> 
>> >- To see the rings etc required high speed timebase settings (e.g. 5 
>> >and 10 uS.div). I would like to say right here: if you believe that 
>> >the secondary gets rung up and up with successive primary shots at 
>> >300 BPS, you are wrong! The gap fires showed up as mere blips on a 
>> >straight line. Still the sparks wax and wane and grow and die. This
>> >is undoubtably an ionic storage/persistence effect.
>> >
>> 
>> >Malcolm
>> 
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>> 
>>   Malcolm -
>> 
>>   Are you saying that it was possible to count the number of charges (BPS)
>> for that special long spark? How did you isolate the long spark? 
>> 
>>   John Couture
>
>I am looking at the stored ringdown/beat envelope of a *non-breakout*
>waveform I captured and stored in the scope *right now*. The waveform 
>was captured at 300BPS.
>     Time to quench: <25uS   7 complete beat envelopes, Amplitude <25%
>of first transfer at quench.
>     Time between breaks: 3.33333333333 mS
>
>Does that answer your question?
>
>Malcolm
>
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   Malcolm -
  
   As far as I can determine you are the only one doing this type of
research so we coilers will have to depend on what you find.  I do not know
whether or not the secondary rings up with successive primary shots. This is
a possibility but may not occur. 

   By seven complete beat envelopes are you referring to the primary circuit
or  secondary circuit? Is it votage or current? Is it a dampened wave? What
does non breakout waveform mean? Is this from an operating Tesla coil? What
is the input wattage, operating frequency, spark length. I have lost track
of what you are testing.

   John Couture
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