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Re: An Important Post.




From: 	Malcolm Watts[SMTP:MALCOLM-at-directorate.wnp.ac.nz]
Sent: 	Wednesday, August 06, 1997 10:41 PM
To: 	tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
Subject: 	Re: An Important Post.

Hi Julian,

> From:   Julian Green[SMTP:julian-at-kbss.bt.co.uk]
> Sent:   Tuesday, August 05, 1997 11:27 AM
> To:     tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> Subject:    Re: An Important Post.
> 
>      1.6mH    800uH    400uH    200uH    100uH    50uH     25uH
>  ----oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+---
>  In        |        |        |        |        |        |        | Out
>           ---      ---      ---      ---      ---      ---      ---
>           ---      ---      ---      ---      ---      ---      ---
>  Gnd       |        |        |        |        |        |        |
>  ----------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+---
>          10pF      22pF     50pF     100pF    220pF    470pF   1000pF
> 
> Malcolm,
> 
> Why are the values of the inductors and caps different?  Surely the 
> inductance of each unit length of a resonator coil is equal, same for
> the capacitance.   Except for the top where the toroid normaly sits.
> 
> Why not this?
> 
>      25uH     25uH     25uH     25uH     25uH     25uH     25uH
>  ----oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+--oooo--+---
>  In        |        |        |        |        |        |        | Out
>           ---      ---      ---      ---      ---      ---      ---
>           ---      ---      ---      ---      ---      ---      ---
>  Gnd       |        |        |        |        |        |        |
>  ----------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+---
>           10pF     10pF     10pF     10pF     10pF     10pF    1000pF

Simply because it doesn't agree with the calculations we use, most 
notably the lumped L and C we successfully use to calculate Fr. If a
model doesn't agree with what we observe, it can't be correct. That 
was the first one I tried. It is equivalent to a piece of coaxial
transmission line.  BTW, the 1000pF you are using would drag F down 
enormously. Typical toplads are around 5x Cself for the biggest ones 
I've heard of being used and more usually, 1x or less. In fact, your 
model might get close but a termination that big is not normally 
used. 
    If in doubt, build one and measure it. I'd encourage everybody to 
try it. I'm only one person. If someone comes up with something that 
does agree with what we observe, it deserves the most thorough 
consideration. The 1000pF on the end of my line was a result of 
preserving the LxC grading constant at all sections. It wasn't a 
topload as such.

Malcolm