Re: EMP cabinet/aquisitions philosophy

To: tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com
Subject: Re: EMP cabinet/aquisitions philosophy
From: Benson_Barry%PAX5-at-mr.nawcad.navy.mil
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:05:00 -0400 (EDT)

I'd move to Mars for a 100kw, 14kv feeder to use tor TC experiments.
Barry

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|From: "tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com"-at-PMDF-at-PAXMB1
|To: Benson Barry; "Tesla-list-subscribers-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com"-at-PMDF-at-PAXMB1
|Subject: Re: EMP cabinet/aquisitions philosophy
|Date: Saturday, September 28, 1996 3:09PM
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|From kukkonen-at-cc.hut.fiSat Sep 28 10:18:50 1996
|Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 15:42:11 +0300 (EET DST)
|From: Kristian Ukkonen <kukkonen-at-cc.hut.fi>
|To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
|Subject: Re: EMP cabinet/aquisitions philosophy
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|On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Tesla List wrote:
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|> > throwing them away, and go THERE.  Trouble I often run into though is
|> > that many of the goodies I need, scientific and electrical surplus,
|> > are often laiden with copper and aluminum.  You end up in a bidding
|> > war with scrap metal dealers who just want to melt the stuff down for
|> > the cash value of the metals. This makes me want to cry because it is
|
|And that's not the only problem - some labs have the policy that they
|won't resell/give their equipment because it would actually cost them MORE
|than just sell the equipment to scrap dealers for nothing. Another reason
|is that they have to think about the legal aspects with potentially
|lethal/dangerous apparatus..
|
|btw: there are exceptions.. Some university in the US was donating
|an old 4 MeV particle accelerator some time ago - damn, had it been in
|Europe and.. :) I don't know if anyone has got it yet - it requires
|large storage-house and weights a LOT.. The add is somewhere on
|the net - I found it with altawista..
|
|> > such a waste of equipment that could instead be helping unfunded
|> > researchers like us discover the mysteries of the universe. This is
|> > my grass roots solution to 'Big labs, big money, big waste'!!!
|
|The only real solution would be an organization that would take old
|equipment for free and then borrow/give them to scientists for
|projects.. I think for example SAS does have this policy which is
|imho great.
|
|> > In a similar vein, how many coilers out there are dedicated enough to 
that
|> > enormous coil project someday that if they located a perfect One
|> > Megawatt generator and pad step up transformer somewhere for a dollar
|> > on say the back side of the moon (figuratively speaking), would they
|relocate
|> > their life to go to it and use it in situ?
|> I can safely say that there are probably between ZIP and maybe one of
|> the coilers who would cast off their daily mantle to hermitize and risk
|> their future on such an endevor!!  The world has few inspired dreamers,
|> but many worker bees. (as it should be)  R. Hull
|
|I'd strongly disagree!! It requires a certain (not so small) amount of
|that "dreamer"-trait to start building apparatus making "lightnings",
|acquiring polepigs etc. etc.. Given the chance I'd guess many of us would
|move to live with the perfect tesla power-source.. Of course, it's always
|a tradeoff between "normal" life (families etc.) and doing what one really
|will.. Like Robert mentions, most of us combine "life" and "hobbies".. :)
|
|> > As for me, I'm out looking now for that big generator and pad 
transformer,
|> > but just a 250 kilowatt to 1/2 Megawatt size.  One I can hope to move 
:).
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|IMHO generators of that size are not too expensive - for example
|250kW, Volvo 12l engine, 48000FIM = about 10000USD..
|200kW, Detroit V 12 500hv, 35000FIM = about 7200USD..
|and I think Russian army-surplus generators would be much cheaper..
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