another note to those shooting for there name on the cup. one of the coils i baught from napa had a clearer epoxy then most. i seen that the two primary leads are crosed over each other in the coil. this could have been the problem with my shorting. i dug some of the epoxy out and seprated them. i don't know if all are like this but be aware. thank you terry for the starting out slow idea, i will head your advise. hope this helps all. marc