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"I have found the output can be just as impressive with asynchronous spark
gap operation and higher bps ranges w/ a smaller than resonant tank
capacitor"
> David Rieben

Well now you are just giving away the secrets!


~Dan
Kansas City area

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:03 AM David Rieben <drieben@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Shaun, Steve,
>
> Although synchronous firing (w/LTR tank capacitor) can be quite
> advantageous for the rather limited available  power with a typical NST
> driven spark gap coil system, from personal experience, I have found the
> output can be just as impressive with asynchronous spark gap operation and
> higher bps ranges w/ a smaller than resonant tank capacitor with the more
> copious available power with PT or pole pig driven spark gap coil systems.
> And it’s a whole lot easier! 😉
>
> Just my $.02,
> David
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 9:33 PM, shaun <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve this was a clip out of a conversation that two other people
> had, I
> > was just questioning the statement that did not make sense to me.
> >
> > I also have made a john freau phase adjuster, and im running 120 pps and
> do
> > see and hear a difference at before the top of the sine and after. But
> like
> > many others I don't think it makes much of a difference at higher ppm and
> > more power. I get about 45 degrees of movement and mine runs and sounds
> best
> > at little before top of sine. With only 2 presentation per revolution, it
> > make a big difference where I charge at.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve White
> > Sent: September 10, 2020 8:15 PM
> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Old post
> >
> > This doesn't make sense to me. As you stated the firing is the same
> > regardless of the capacitance. I have a John Freau style phase adjuster.
> I
> > have tried adjusting the firing point from nominal and I see no effect.
> I am
> > running at 240 PPS. Maybe you would see more affect at 120 PPS.
> >
> > Steve White
> > Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "shaun" <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:07:32 AM
> > Subject: [TCML] Old post
> >
> > This is a excerpt of a thread by Ed Sonderman
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a tuning problem, even when the primary tap was set right where it
> >
> > should be - according to my calculations.  John Morawa pointed out to me
> > that
> >
> > I needed to re-set the phase angle on the motor after increasing the
> >
> > capacitance - which hadn't occured to me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed Sonderman
> >
> >
> >
> > In the above statement, Mr Morawa stated about needing to re-set the
> phase
> > after increasing the tank capacitance
> >
> >
> >
> > This is a synchronous spark gap they are talking about.
> >
> > Let just assume that the srsg is set to fire just before peak, how is
> > changing the tank cap going to change the phase, as it is still firing at
> > the same phase no matter what size tank cap is used.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any thoughts, I do enjoy Ed's adventures and documentation,
> >
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