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I do not get much emails from this group, but you can suggest to me a
specific list.
I'm a little new to Tesla Coil making, but I've made some kits that had
instructions and the parts, so it was easy.
But I like to learn to think for myself - so I'm looking for a place/group
that is teaching the basics so I can at one point make my own.
Thank you very much for your hard work!!!
I wish you Happy Holidays, Happy New Year and maily I wish you lots of
health!
Tony Fleming

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>    1. Re: Need some caps (shaun)
>    2. Re: Need some caps (shaun)
>    3. doing transactions with TCML members (Lux, Jim)
>    4. Re: doing transactions with TCML members (shaun)
>    5. Re: Need some caps (shaun)
>    6. Re: Staccato Board. (Chris Reeland)
>    7. Re: Staccato Board. (shaun)
>    8. Re: My new "Swords On Demand" VTTC Interrupter Controller
>       (Chris Reeland)
>    9. Safety Gap / Terry filter (Adam James)
>   10. test (vladmiro.mazzilli@xxxxxxxxxx)
>   11. Rebuilding VTTC (Terry Fritz)
>   12. Re: Rebuilding VTTC (Chris Reeland)
>   13. Re: Rebuilding VTTC (Chris Reeland)
>   14. Re: Rebuilding VTTC (Chris Reeland)
>   15. Re: Rebuilding VTTC (Chris Reeland)
>   16. Metal Spinning (Tristan and Kayden gaming)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 10:55:54 -0500
> From: "shaun" <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Tesla Coil Mailing List'" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Need some caps
> Message-ID: <004a01d6d87a$ee910720$cbb31560$@com>
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>
> My address is 229 North high street Union City Indiana 47390
>
> Just got out of bed, will get back with you in a short
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> charis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: December 21, 2020 8:50 PM
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Need some caps
>
> Hello,
>
> I will take $200.00 for them as long as you pay the actual shipping
> charges. I can ship them to you tomorrow via the UPS store . I will get
> the actual shipping cost in the morning and let you know the total.
>
> I promised my Wife that I would sell all of my Tesla coil stuff.
>
> Thanks, Jim-
>
> On 12/21/2020 8:06 PM, shaun wrote:
> > The last time I bought any they it was through TTI for 3 buck a cap X
> 120.
> Now I see they are rolled gold. I would go $200, I know that is low, but
> that wife is not a tesla fan.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> charis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: December 21, 2020 7:13 PM
> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Need some caps
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have fifty-eight,  942C20P15K-F capacitors, they are all in new
> > condition. If you want them make me a reasonable offer and they will be
> > yours. It is always nice to avoid eBay when possible.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On 12/21/2020 5:16 PM, shaun wrote:
> >> Anybody have any 942C20P15K-F caps to sell, I need about 40. Or where to
> >> purchase some. Maybe someone making a big order. I would be interested.
> Or
> >> any recommendation for other good ones. Thanks
> >>
> >> Snoggle400200@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 11:03:05 -0500
> From: "shaun" <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Tesla Coil Mailing List'" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Need some caps
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>
> Also they are the 942C20P15K-F correct. My phone # is 260 729 7968 if
> needed. Im retired so home most time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> charis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: December 21, 2020 8:50 PM
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Need some caps
>
> Hello,
>
> I will take $200.00 for them as long as you pay the actual shipping
> charges. I can ship them to you tomorrow via the UPS store . I will get
> the actual shipping cost in the morning and let you know the total.
>
> I promised my Wife that I would sell all of my Tesla coil stuff.
>
> Thanks, Jim-
>
> On 12/21/2020 8:06 PM, shaun wrote:
> > The last time I bought any they it was through TTI for 3 buck a cap X
> 120.
> Now I see they are rolled gold. I would go $200, I know that is low, but
> that wife is not a tesla fan.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> charis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: December 21, 2020 7:13 PM
> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Need some caps
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have fifty-eight,  942C20P15K-F capacitors, they are all in new
> > condition. If you want them make me a reasonable offer and they will be
> > yours. It is always nice to avoid eBay when possible.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On 12/21/2020 5:16 PM, shaun wrote:
> >> Anybody have any 942C20P15K-F caps to sell, I need about 40. Or where to
> >> purchase some. Maybe someone making a big order. I would be interested.
> Or
> >> any recommendation for other good ones. Thanks
> >>
> >> Snoggle400200@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 08:08:46 -0800
> From: "Lux, Jim" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [TCML] doing transactions with TCML members
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> Hey folks,
>
> The details of a transaction are probably better left to a private email
> exchange between the parties, rather than broadcast to the big wide
> world of the TCML (and archived forever in various places).
>
> We're not so worried about list traffic and getting buried, but, ....
>
> one of the moderators.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 11:39:49 -0500
> From: "shaun" <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Tesla Coil Mailing List'" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] doing transactions with TCML members
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> Yep, you are right.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lux, Jim
> Sent: December 22, 2020 11:09 AM
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> Subject: [TCML] doing transactions with TCML members
>
> Hey folks,
>
> The details of a transaction are probably better left to a private email
> exchange between the parties, rather than broadcast to the big wide
> world of the TCML (and archived forever in various places).
>
> We're not so worried about list traffic and getting buried, but, ....
>
> one of the moderators.
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 11:39:49 -0500
> From: "shaun" <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Tesla Coil Mailing List'" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Need some caps
> Message-ID: <004d01d6d881$1176d6b0$34648410$@com>
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>
> That was good, wife liked it too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lux, Jim
> Sent: December 21, 2020 8:45 PM
> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Need some caps
>
> On 12/21/20 5:06 PM, shaun wrote:
> > The last time I bought any they it was through TTI for 3 buck a cap X
> 120. Now I see they are rolled gold. I would go $200, I know that is low,
> but that wife is not a tesla fan.
>
> You could use the technique the kids at the stables would use when
> trying to convince parents to buy/lease a horse.
>
> "Sure, Mom, I could give up this hobby/activity...I'll just starting
> hanging out at the mall and look for cute guys/girls, it's not like I
> have to spend any money when they will."
>
> You update it a bit, and explain how coiling keeps you off the streets,
> and is relatively safe, compared to wingsuit BASE jumping, drag bikes,
> horseback riding - you get the idea.
>
> Yeah, the MMC is not as good a deal as it used to be.  Maybe you can
> look for a single capacitor (i.e. a Maxwell or Condenser Products) -
> they seem to be (used) more in the price range - but you do have the
> "maybe the shot life is at an end" problem.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 20:41:51 -0600
> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Staccato Board.
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>
> Hi Chip,
>
> I was wondering if any updates... have not heard anything from my initial
> reply to your post. Understand if you are busy. Just wondering.
>
> Anyways, I am pretty familiar with this circuit and others that are
> similar.
> I have also modified this circuit a bit a while back. And another related
> one just a little. These are in my blue enclosures. I also have a very
> simple basic manual controller I put together a while back also.
>
> Speaking of basic controllers, in the past few days off and on I have put
> together 2 more. Just bench tested right now. Will be doing VTTC running
> tests soon...to see if I failed or succeeded.
>
> Anyways here is a picture of my collection of VTTC controllers.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/p9jpyod97xUi7UAi6
>
> 5 of them, with #6 in the works fairly soon I hope, which is based off the
> original design but some "layout" differences.
> All of these controllers have zero crossing detection. Some different than
> others in how done.
>
> I will be doing a new posting with pictures and maybe some video also
> eventually after doing some real running on coil with all 5 current
> controllers. Been a while since I have run the 304 VTTC so I want to run
> them all. Coil actually has a slightly damaged secondary currently, but
> still working ok with some losses...quite earlier this year I pushed it too
> hard, during extreme testing I did. Windings "buckled" in a few spots. Got
> too hot...the acrylic tube has warped some... Happens...not the first time
> :^) I will be fixing soon with some more ideas for major changes to this
> coil. I always seem to change this one around, testing/trying things.
>
> Okay, enough rambling here...I will give more details eventually in a new
> post.
>
> And I will be waiting to hear if any progress/info/questions from you.
>
> Have great Holiday everyone.
>
> Chris Reeland
> Ladd Illinois USA
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 1:00 AM Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chip,
> >
> > I am giving a link to a couple of pictures.
> > Are you getting anything that resembles these pictures. One picture is at
> > minimum PW and the other is maximum PW.
> >
> > Could you take a picture of what you are seeing on your scope?
> >
> > Also could we get close up pictures of the whole topside and whole bottom
> > of your circuit board. Can not guarantee, but we might be able to "see"
> the
> > possible problem(s).
> >
> > Link:
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/yWdLGUTHY8EexVwL7
> >
> > And can you also maybe get a couple of scope pictures at a few different
> > PRF rates?
> >
> > Kind of like this one picture of mine at a set rate:
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/TCE9wz5ZBKHeZhG9A
> >
> >
> > Chris Reeland
> > Ladd Illinois USA
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 21:50:07 -0500
> From: "shaun" <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Tesla Coil Mailing List'" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Staccato Board.
> Message-ID: <000001d6d99f$7d627400$78275c00$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
>
> Just got this at 945 after we talked. Nice pictures of your stuff.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Reeland
> Sent: December 23, 2020 9:42 PM
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Staccato Board.
>
> Hi Chip,
>
> I was wondering if any updates... have not heard anything from my initial
> reply to your post. Understand if you are busy. Just wondering.
>
> Anyways, I am pretty familiar with this circuit and others that are
> similar.
> I have also modified this circuit a bit a while back. And another related
> one just a little. These are in my blue enclosures. I also have a very
> simple basic manual controller I put together a while back also.
>
> Speaking of basic controllers, in the past few days off and on I have put
> together 2 more. Just bench tested right now. Will be doing VTTC running
> tests soon...to see if I failed or succeeded.
>
> Anyways here is a picture of my collection of VTTC controllers.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/p9jpyod97xUi7UAi6
>
> 5 of them, with #6 in the works fairly soon I hope, which is based off the
> original design but some "layout" differences.
> All of these controllers have zero crossing detection. Some different than
> others in how done.
>
> I will be doing a new posting with pictures and maybe some video also
> eventually after doing some real running on coil with all 5 current
> controllers. Been a while since I have run the 304 VTTC so I want to run
> them all. Coil actually has a slightly damaged secondary currently, but
> still working ok with some losses...quite earlier this year I pushed it too
> hard, during extreme testing I did. Windings "buckled" in a few spots. Got
> too hot...the acrylic tube has warped some... Happens...not the first time
> :^) I will be fixing soon with some more ideas for major changes to this
> coil. I always seem to change this one around, testing/trying things.
>
> Okay, enough rambling here...I will give more details eventually in a new
> post.
>
> And I will be waiting to hear if any progress/info/questions from you.
>
> Have great Holiday everyone.
>
> Chris Reeland
> Ladd Illinois USA
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 1:00 AM Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chip,
> >
> > I am giving a link to a couple of pictures.
> > Are you getting anything that resembles these pictures. One picture is at
> > minimum PW and the other is maximum PW.
> >
> > Could you take a picture of what you are seeing on your scope?
> >
> > Also could we get close up pictures of the whole topside and whole bottom
> > of your circuit board. Can not guarantee, but we might be able to "see"
> the
> > possible problem(s).
> >
> > Link:
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/yWdLGUTHY8EexVwL7
> >
> > And can you also maybe get a couple of scope pictures at a few different
> > PRF rates?
> >
> > Kind of like this one picture of mine at a set rate:
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/TCE9wz5ZBKHeZhG9A
> >
> >
> > Chris Reeland
> > Ladd Illinois USA
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:11:43 -0600
> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] My new "Swords On Demand" VTTC Interrupter
>         Controller
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> Hi all,
>
> I am resurrecting this post from much earlier this year since it is
> directly related to using SSR's and some related background info on my
> first try, which is near the bottom of this new posting.
> As I hinted in one of my replies to Chip's question in his recent
> post: [TCML] Staccato Board, I am going to quote most of what I said again
> here:
>
> "Anyways, I am pretty familiar with this circuit and others that are
> similar.
> I have also modified this circuit a bit a while back. And another related
> one just a little. These are in my blue enclosures. I also have a very
> simple basic manual controller I put together a while back also.
> Speaking of basic controllers, in the past few days off and on I have put
> together 2 more. Just bench tested right now. Will be doing VTTC running
> tests soon...to see if I failed or succeeded.
> Anyways here is a picture of my collection of VTTC controllers.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/p9jpyod97xUi7UAi6
> 5 of them, with #6 in the works fairly soon I hope, which is based off the
> original design but some "layout" differences.
> All of these controllers have zero crossing detection. Some different than
> others in how done.
> I will be doing a new posting with pictures and maybe some video also
> eventually after doing some real running on coil with all 5 current
> controllers. Been a while since I have run the 304 VTTC so I want to run
> them all. Coil actually has a slightly damaged secondary currently, but
> still working ok with some losses...quite earlier this year I pushed it too
> hard, during extreme testing I did. Windings "buckled" in a few spots. Got
> too hot...the acrylic tube has warped some... Happens...not the first time
> :^) I will be fixing soon with some more ideas for major changes to this
> coil. I always seem to change this one around, testing/trying things.
> Okay, enough rambling here...I will give more details eventually in a new
> post."
>
> So picking up here now, I have run these 2 new controllers with success.
> Going to call the new, very economical, encoder one: my "Mini" "Swords On
> Demand" controller :^)
> I will let several pictures and a couple of videos speak for themselves. I
> make a few comments in the videos.
> As can be seen in some pictures, I have removed the actual SSR from inside
> the original "SOD" enclosure and have now mounted on a piece on metal down
> low, to also help "shield" the circuitry inside it. This also allows me to
> share this SSR with several things. Can also easily switch back to my
> original tiny triac when using the "original" controllers which reside
> inside the blue enclosures.
>
> I have also set some things up with some repurposed connectors I had laying
> around. They are arranged for ease of use and "genders" to avoid mistakes
> when switching between different controllers and different required "wall
> warts", to share components as much as possible.
>
> I have also zoomed in pictures from much earlier this year of the current
> secondary coil damage. It is confirmed the secondary form is warped. I did
> not think/remember to take a picture of it when I removed the secondary to
> take a look inside of it to see why the windings "buckled". The epoxy
> coating can only do so much...
>
> I will get around to repairing it. And I will also be completely changing
> the whole coil layout out. All major components the same. Just cleaned up
> and less cluttered and maybe well... "finalized" :^)
>
> Link to pictures and 2 videos:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/FEBid6jNyapjDtoH8
>
> Okay, as I like to say, "enough rambling".
>
> Happy Holidays Everyone.
> Make some "Sparkeys" if you can...
>
> Chris Reeland
> Ladd Illinois USA
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 2:55 AM Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all.
> > Gave a hint on this earlier, in a different thread.
> >
> > Starting a couple of weeks ago, I started to think about some things,
> > while I was converting my "breadboard" interrupter to put in a case, I am
> > always thinking, even when working on other things...
> >
> > I used to work as printer on newspaper printing presses for a lot years.
> > Just left this industry for good a couple of years ago now. Dying trade.
> > Besides running them, also worked on them. Lots of mechanical and
> > electrical controls involved. In addition, used to work on all kinds of
> > support equipment in mailroom department, which handles the papers after
> > they come off the press. Again all kinds of mechanical and electrical
> > controls.
> >
> > I started to think about rotary encoders on lots of different equipment
> we
> > had. Then, I thought about SSR's (Solid State Relays), again on several
> > different things.
> > SSR's have been around for quite some time now.
> >
> > I started to remember, some types of SSR's have a zero cross trigger
> > method. And it does this on the actual load, vs. the indirect method of
> the
> > other 2 interrupters that I have modified and use on my VTTC's. Trigger
> on
> > the actual load should be even better, since especially using a level
> > shifted supply.
> >
> > This should work I thought. Then I thought about an encoder to use. The
> > ones on machines there were used for feedback. I thought, about an
> encoder
> > that was more convenient to use and thought about CNC machines that I
> have
> > run before in the past. They have a rapid handwheel rotary encoder. The
> big
> > plus is these have mechanical detent stops between the optical slots.
> >
> > So with just a little looking around, I found some very economical ones,
> > just in case it does not work, so I would not be out much coin if I fail.
> >
> > When I got them in, I did a couple a very basic encoder output tests
> > scoping it. Looked at the pulse width times and decided it is most likely
> > going to work.
> > Just another note, the detent stop is actually not "centered". Designed
> > that way. At first I thought this was going to be a problem, then I
> > realized it will not. Because of not being centered, when you initially
> > turn the handwheel, because of the detent, one direction you get a "quick
> > pulse snap".
> > And the other you get a "longer pulse snap". Instantly, after looking at
> > the pulse width duration on the scope, I thought "burst mode" in the long
> > one. Cool! And a single shot in the short one. Can also achieve bursts
> by a
> > quick flick of short ones, not quite as intense.
> >
> > Decided, since I was pretty confident, to put all of this in an enclosure
> > from the get go, before even trying actually on the coil. Normally I
> would
> > not do this, I would admit.
> >
> > I must say, it is working greater than expected.  Trigger timing is
> great.
> > Long straight swords. No shorter wandering problems, like the EVR one
> > originally had and even the former breadboard one had when using a level
> > shifted supply. Really neat to be in full manual control. The things you
> > can do are so numerous. A very fun controller. Get lucky once in a while
> > right out the gate...
> >
> > Since I was having so much fun, I have decided to give it a fun name,
> > borrowing some from Greg Leyh's: Lighting On Demand big fellas coils :^)
> >
> > So I will call it:
> > Swords On Demand
> >
> > Just a few more thoughts here.
> > I suppose you could also use a regular encoder with a stepper motor and
> > controller, or even fancier if you want, say a PLC or something else in
> > conjunction with the SSR.
> >
> > Also, I suppose using this SSR with  several other numerous devices to
> > supply a "drive" signal to it.
> >
> > For me for now, I like the extreme simplicity of this setup. Just 3
> > economical parts and very easy to hook up :^)
> >
> > But I just today earlier, received a second SSR, to play with...
> >
> > Going to attach several pictures, some info, a quick crude drawing of the
> > wiring,  and a video of me running the coil with it.
> >
> > Links:
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/LDJkmHKtMqmHKg5f6
> >
> > Video:
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/pxrJmxy9MttT1EHz6
> >
> > Chris Reeland
> > Ladd Illinois USA
> >
> > Sent from my LG V20
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:29:02 -0500
> From: Adam James <adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [TCML] Safety Gap / Terry filter
> Message-ID:
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> Hi All, Because of my low skill level with coils, I prefer to build on the
> small size. That being the case I am looking for designs for coil
> safety devices such as the {terry filter, which I have built} that would be
> physically smaller to fit within the boundaries of the coil base that I
> construct, usually around 12" X 12". Safety gaps are OK, but I would like
> something better.
> Adam
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:38:20 +0100
> From: vladmiro.mazzilli@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [TCML] test
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>
> Test message, it's only a test don't reply
> thanks
> Vladi
>
>
>
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> 4G a soli 8,99? al mese. http://tisca.li/smart30
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 21:04:32 +0100
> From: Terry Fritz <terrellf@xxxxxxx>
> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TCML] Rebuilding VTTC
> Message-ID:
>
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>
>
> Hello,
> ?
> I am rebuilding and older duel 811 tube coil to a dual 572B coil.?
> The coil is actually in good working condition but I am changing out the
> weaker parts to best of bread ones. ?The older 811 Svetlana tubes have
> gotten holes burned through the plates and stuff. ?;)
> I am not very knowledgeable about tube coil things so I have run into some
> questions.
> Here are the pictures, schematic and parts list.
> ?
> https://imgbox.com/2b6HInfN
> https://imgbox.com/3WydJGVU
> https://imgbox.com/t77lsj9u
> https://imgbox.com/PFLbaBgP
> https://imgbox.com/JRwxfEns
> ?
> Questions:
> 1. ?The original microwave caps out of the microwave transformer were
> 1.786uF (C1) but I am changing them to two new caps I had to 2.381uF at
> 2500VAC total. ?I am thinking the exact value of these caps is not critical
> at all?
>
> 2. ?There is that C2 cap at 10kV 1nF. ?Does it really do anything useful
> at all or is it just eyewash and can be removed?
>
> 3. ?The plate transformer (T3) has two ~2nF caps across the heater
> winding. ?Do they really do anything at all either? ?If such parts really
> are useless I will remove them.
>
> 4. The grid leak thing has a 8.1 kOhm 30 watt resistor in parallel with a
> 2.2nF 2kV ceramic cap (C6 R1). ?This was original to the dual 811's.
> ?Should it be changed for dual 562Bs?
>
> Any other suggests are welcome and thank you for your consideration!
>
> Terry
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 15:53:08 -0600
> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Rebuilding VTTC
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hi Terry,
>
> Good to see another VTTC'er
>
> I will answer briefly below...at each question...
>
> Nice looking tube coil BTW :^)
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> Chris Reeland
> Ladd Illinois USA
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 2:12 PM Terry Fritz <terrellf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am rebuilding and older duel 811 tube coil to a dual 572B coil.
> > The coil is actually in good working condition but I am changing out the
> > weaker parts to best of bread ones.  The older 811 Svetlana tubes have
> > gotten holes burned through the plates and stuff.  ;)
> > I am not very knowledgeable about tube coil things so I have run into
> some
> > questions.
> > Here are the pictures, schematic and parts list.
> >
> > https://imgbox.com/2b6HInfN
> > https://imgbox.com/3WydJGVU
> > https://imgbox.com/t77lsj9u
> > https://imgbox.com/PFLbaBgP
> > https://imgbox.com/JRwxfEns
> >
> > Questions:
> > 1.  The original microwave caps out of the microwave transformer were
> > 1.786uF (C1) but I am changing them to two new caps I had to 2.381uF at
> > 2500VAC total.  I am thinking the exact value of these caps is not
> critical
> > at all?
> >
>
>
> More is better here. For level shifter. As long as you meet voltage
> requirement, which you do...
>
>
>
> > 2.  There is that C2 cap at 10kV 1nF.  Does it really do anything useful
> > at all or is it just eyewash and can be removed?
> >
>
> This is necessary to protect the level shifter diode and protect the HV
> plate transformer/MOT
>
>
>
> > 3.  The plate transformer (T3) has two ~2nF caps across the heater
> > winding.  Do they really do anything at all either?  If such parts really
> > are useless I will remove them.
> >
>
> This is necessary again to protect the filament transformer.
>
>
>
>
> > 4. The grid leak thing has a 8.1 kOhm 30 watt resistor in parallel with a
> > 2.2nF 2kV ceramic cap (C6 R1).  This was original to the dual 811's.
> > Should it be changed for dual 562Bs?
> >
>
>
> This should work fine to start with. The 572B is pretty similar.
>
> That said, this is a "tougher tube" graphite plate which also can handle a
> little bit more current also.
>
> You should actually eventually change/adjust grid leak circuit to further
> take advantage of better tubes.
>
>
> > Any other suggests are welcome and thank you for your consideration!
> >
> > Terry
> > _______________________________________________
> > Tesla mailing list
> > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 16:58:27 -0600
> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Rebuilding VTTC
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi Terry again,
>
> After reviewing your 3 pictures/2 schematics/1 paper some more I want to
> mention a bit more.
>
> On your paper, you mention C6 which is also parallel with R1 in the grid
> leak section.  You say this is a RF blocking capacitor on your paper
> grouped with C4 &5.  It is actually charging up here and the parallel
> resistor is controlling the "leak down rate".
>
> Chris Reeland
> Ladd Illinois USA
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 17:09:07 -0600
> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Rebuilding VTTC
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Oops....
> I hit the send button accidentally before done... while editing and adding
> info...
>
> So C6 is not a blocking capacitor here. In conjunction with R1 it switches
> the tube "on & off" at the right time to control the plate current pulses
> to the "tank".
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 4:58 PM Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Terry again,
> >
> > After reviewing your 3 pictures/2 schematics/1 paper some more I want to
> > mention a bit more.
> >
> > On your paper, you mention C6 which is also parallel with R1 in the grid
> > leak section.  You say this is a RF blocking capacitor on your paper
> > grouped with C4 &5.  It is actually charging up here and the parallel
> > resistor is controlling the "leak down rate".
> >
> > Chris Reeland
> > Ladd Illinois USA
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:05:00 -0600
> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Rebuilding VTTC
> Message-ID:
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> BW4K8eAuMozGdxGXdRZXaA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> Just a few more thoughts here...to better understand what is going on...
>
> So C2, 4, & 5 are RF blocking caps. , blocking RF from getting to the
> filament and plate trans. and the level shifter diode eliminating damage to
> them. These caps. can also be termed as RF bypass caps. to Ground, so it
> doesn't get into those components.
>
> Chris Reeland
> Ladd Illinois USA
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 5:09 PM Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Oops....
> > I hit the send button accidentally before done... while editing and
> adding
> > info...
> >
> > So C6 is not a blocking capacitor here. In conjunction with R1 it
> switches
> > the tube "on & off" at the right time to control the plate current pulses
> > to the "tank".
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 4:58 PM Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Terry again,
> >>
> >> After reviewing your 3 pictures/2 schematics/1 paper some more I want to
> >> mention a bit more.
> >>
> >> On your paper, you mention C6 which is also parallel with R1 in the grid
> >> leak section.  You say this is a RF blocking capacitor on your paper
> >> grouped with C4 &5.  It is actually charging up here and the parallel
> >> resistor is controlling the "leak down rate".
> >>
> >> Chris Reeland
> >> Ladd Illinois USA
> >>
> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S
> >>
> >>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 10:15:13 -0500
> From: Tristan and Kayden gaming <maxford1980@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [TCML] Metal Spinning
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>
> I made these in my spare time at work. I?m about to try my hand at sinning
> some aluminum. These are made from H13 Tool Steel. Anyone have any pointers
> before I begin?
>
> Chip
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dxuphv0XgpqArCPzx3sunKkWGk9N0uds/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
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