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My coiler-buddy Andi (Andreas Saile) has developed an SRSG-Strobe-Tuner, on the base of an powerful LED, by which it is possible to adjust the electrodes exactly to whatever optimum firing angle one likes. We presumed, a good starting angle adjustment could have been calculated, by means of a PSPICE simulation of the TC. A small description of the Strobe-Tuner can be downloaded from my website, at: https://hvchbs.zeitgenossen.ch/Downloads/Strobe_SRSG_Tuner.pdf We have successfully applied this "cold" = "off HV" tuning with the B&W coil. The John Freau phase adjuster allows the fine tuning of the coil, when HV is life, and seems almost "a must" for us. The most helpful measurement in this context, seems monitoring the primary cap voltage, by means of a potential transformer and oszilloscope. - Well, just varying the phase, monitoring spark performance and listening to the sound of the coil/rotary is also a good way...:-) Regards Kurt Schraner Basel, Switzerland -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tesla <tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx> Im Auftrag von Steve White Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Oktober 2018 02:30 An: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Betreff: Re: [TCML] SRSG strobe I know that using an optical sensor with an oscilloscope provides a very precise way to insure that the flying electrodes line up with the stationary electrodes at whatever phase angle on the 60 Hz power line that you pick on the oscilloscope. Now, whether or not that is the optimum firing point may be a different matter. On my pole-pig powered coil which runs at 240 BPS, the firing angles of 0, 90, 180, and 270 degrees which I set with my oscilloscope did indeed seem to be the optimum. I built a very nice John Freau style phase adjuster to make fine adjustments. When I used it to vary the phase angle from the one that I set with the oscilloscope, I saw no difference in streamer performance or quality. Maybe the effect is much greater with a 120 BPS NST-powered system. Some posters have suggested that a 240 BPS system is closer in performance to a ARSG because it fires 4 times per cycle where firing points may not be as critical. Steve White Cedar Rapids, Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Lau" <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 5:09:07 PM Subject: Re: [TCML] SRSG strobe What exactly is the goal here? Assuming that you're successful in getting the timing light to sync and fire 120PPS, that still gives no useful information as to whether the RSG is set to fire at the optimum phase angle. The best you can hope for is confirmation that the motor is in fact synchronous and that the phase can be varied. I'm unaware of any means to set the phase other than varying the phase and monitoring spark performance. The optimum phase of the RSG relative to the mains phase will vary with primary cap size and Variac setting, there's no fixed "best" setting relative to mains peak. That's why the variable Freau SRSG controller* is such a godsend - it's always something that you'll want to tweak. In my experience, the SRSG phase is super-critical at 120BPS, there's a clear increase in spark performance as I retard the firing, up until a critical point, and then it becomes unstable, so I back it off a tad. As far as protecting the NST, a safety gap in parallel is mandatory in parallel with the RSG. For a simpler means of viewing the phase of your SRSG relative to mains phase, attach a small magnet to the shaft, and mount a small, high turns count inductor so that the magnet sweeps past it. Scope the voltage across the inductor and sync the scope to the line. You should see induced voltage blips with each sweep of the magnet, and you should see that waveform shift as you vary the phase of the SRSG. *See my RSG web page - http://www.laushaus.com/tesla/sync_gap.htm Regards, Gary Lau MA, USA <snip> _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla