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Thanks BrianB, I still feel myself, it is still a bit ugly :-( but works great :-) That would be great if you do a VTTC. Kind of lonely here currently in this realm... :-D They are my favorite. I also just love the glow of a glass vacuum tube. And "seeing" the friction of the electrons "hitting" the plate. And speaking of "seeing", these 304's are unlike any tube that I have ever run before when it comes to this...there are some really neat "patterns" that can be seen... Now my next one waiting for Spring does look nice and I hope it stays that way... Back to the working great part... I have gotten around to rolling all my 304 tubes on this improved setup yesterday (12/24). Ran each tube for just a "quick" tuning for best streamer length, wrote down results, and then I just "played" around with each tube trying different rates and changing tuning settings. Spent from 3pm to 8:30pm rolling. Downtime switching tubes was about 5 minutes each. Otherwise running non-stop. MOT handled this just fine, only getting slightly hot at times, but cooled quickly on lower rates and during tube switching. No more the scalding hot just touching it for a split second checking it!!! The last time I did tube rolling on several tubes, I had to let the MOT really cool down after each short run. Took really long, for not really much true run time. So here I will just list the results now: Again this is just 10A variac using the 120V setting. And no PF caps, not going to bother. Eimac 304's TL#1 got 31"@14.5A This one is still the "swords" tube, easily tuned in for this. And I can now also tune for some other strange behavior. Still the only tube that I can get perfect swords just one after another. Going to scope several things on this tube when I get a chance, take pictures and notes and then scope a "regular" tube and compare. I will admit I am still puzzled by this one tube. Only one like it. TL#2 got 32"@12A TL#3 got 34"@14A TL#4 got 33"@14A TL#5 got 34"@12.5A TL#6 got 33"@12A TL#7 got 31"@12A TL#8 got 34"@13A T?#1 got 33"@14A The reason for the question mark is the tube markings are completely gone, not sure if a TL or TH. TH#1 got 33"@13.5A TH#2 got 33"@11.5A TH#3 got 32"@13A TH#4 got 33"@12.5A Very pleased with these results and the efficiency here. Going to pick a couple and do some really thorough experimenting and tuning when I get a chance. So this is all for now... Happy Holidays everyone... Chris Reeland Ladd Illinois USA Sent from my LG V20 _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla