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If I could just chime in, I honestly think the best MOT design, as far as something for students, is a simple twin MOT (center tap grounded). I get 5 foot arcs from mine, and it requires very little work or know-how, zero expense, and has proven incredibly durable (and I've burned up literally dozens of MOTs doing things wrong, so when I say durable, I mean bullet AND fool proof). Just use no ballast, and size your cap to match your breakrate so that you get 70-ish percent charge per bang (async spark gap). On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Martin Slinning <martinslinning@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi tedl in New Zeeland! > > Exellent! Fantastic!! This is the kind of setup we are looking for. Do you > still have access to it? Or, do you have pictures? How did you solve the > part with just the outer two in transformer oil? This is really > interesting. I think this is the biggest setup i have heard of so far! > I think we can manage from your decription, but some pictures would really > help.. > > Best regards > Martin > > 2016-12-22 9:13 GMT+01:00 TESLA <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > Hi Martin > > > > I built a really high power tesla from MOT s (14 in the whole machine) > > > > * That was 6 MOT's in primary centre ground 3 per side (shunts removed) > > input load shared by separate power to each half of the 6 MOT's > > * Considerable PFC was used and NO other ballasting was needed (drew 50a > > or so from my 230v supply at full bore) > > * Outer MOT's in xfrmr oil (no mains eths used, some like to apply that > I > > recommend swamping capacitance between core and secondary and core and > > primary to equalise stress if floating core > > * FW bridge of 3A 1kV diodes (just lots and lots used overkill and no > > equalising components) > > * DC Pi filter of 2uF caps and 10mH MOT arrage (gapped MOT's of 0.3mm > > array of 4 , 2 in series then parallel two of those) > > * Ring up inductor another array of 4 gapped MOT's (parallel two sets > of > > 2 in series) > > * DQ of about 50 1n4007 > > * Bleeders on ALL Caps (several independent chains in case one chain > went > > open) > > * 90nF Cp (Used CDC 942C series 942C16P33K, for big coils these are > > better value than the so called Geek group ones > > * 300bps rotary SG (was sync but need not have been) > > * Big secondary and large topload (8" and also a 12" at times and 300mm > > x1.1m top) > > > > That beast did well over 10kVA and over 3.5m arcs, it is perhaps a little > > ambitious but makes good use of very cheap components,unsafe in the hands > > of untrained users, I recently gave it to an enthusiast with better > > location to use it. Needs a dedicated supply (spa pol in my case, all > > stoves and water heaters switched off when it was running to keep pole > fuse > > intact.) > > > > Good luck tedl in NZ > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Martin Slinning > > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:15 AM > > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [TCML] Tesla coil setup using MOT > > > > Hi. > > My students and i have just finished building av flyback/zvs coil and > want > > to step up to a New coil using MOTs. We have seen different setups but we > > are looking for tips on how to build the most effective coil. In Norway > we > > have limited access to NST, but MOTs are no problem. We have now about 11 > > mots and a bunch of MO caps and diodes. > > We are planning on making av rsg using av 2800 rpm motor and an inverter > > to raise to 150-200 Hz to get whatever rpm we need. > > Anyone who can give us tips on what to do, and not do, are greatly > > appreciated. > > > > Best regards > > Martin Slinning. > > (Teacher Electric automation at Norwegian highschool.) > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla