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Hi John. Yeah. Using 16 Henry Weinhart long neck bottles for the caps for my Trinkhaus endeavor. They are filled 4 3/4" with salt water and topped up with mineral oil. Some use motor oil or salad oil. 1/4" hole punched into the twist tops 6"X1/4" zinc coated carriage bolts pushed thru 1" treads up, sealed with silicone. Going slow, lots to do. Will keep you posted. Peter Noga Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla