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Thanks all for your excellent input on top loads - Toroids. Does the middle section have to be "filled in" with a metal object like a pie pan? I thought I saw a picture online that had an X or + shape middle section to reach out to the donut shape and hold it to the top of the secondary. If it has to be filled in with a metal surface like a pie pan, is there any rule on how thick it should be in the middle - or just enough to hold the donut shape in place? Also I saw online one design using filler material inside and outside of the donut shape. Should the donut not be hollow inside with air? Thanks - Tim On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:15 AM, mddeming--- via Tesla <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > K-Mart and Big Lots also occasionally carry different sizes > of pans for those who have ethical problems with Hobby Lobby. > > Matt D > > -----Original Message----- > From: wt5y <wt5y@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 4:25 pm > Subject: Re: [TCML] Mid sized Tesla Coil - Done > > > If you have a hobby lobby in your area they sell an assortment of pie pans > in > different sizes. > > John Cooper > > > Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S5™, a Cricket 4G > LTE smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Timothy Gilmore > <tdg8934@xxxxxxxxx> > Date:03/22/2015 16:02 (GMT-06:00) > To: Tesla Coil Mailing > List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: > Subject: Re: [TCML] Mid sized Tesla Coil - Done > > > Thanks Jon! > > I've been putting many hours in every day trying to get it ready > for the > showing next Friday. When you say make the toroid topload bigger, > I'm > assuming you mean use larger ducting like 8" or larger if I can find > it > (instead of the 6" I have now). It was hard to find the right size > middle > section and was lucky to find 13" foil pizza trays (as the 4" > ducting > torroid toploads use more easily found 9" pie tins). I also used > foil > wrapped cardboard inside for more strength but it wants to shift around > too > much unless kept tight. Is it more important to have a larger middle > section > to the torroid topload or the ducting size (i.e. 6", 8", 12")? It > might be > easier to locate a more ridged larger middle section and wrap the > 6"+ ducting > around that, > > Also wrapping it all in aluminum tape would keep it more uniform > and flat > (less crinkle like), I also found that adding a large spike nail to the > top > of the torroid middle section (wedge in) would direct more sparks out > the > end of it. So making it more uniform (or bigger) will allow for less > medium > sized sparks and will discharge sparks that are thicker and > longer? > > > Tim > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jon Danniken > <danniken@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Wow that looks great, you got that together > fast! > > > > A couple suggestions would be to work on your topload to eliminate > the > > multiple streamers (assuming you don't like multiple streamers), so that > > > you end up with one larger streamer. Part of the issue can be caused > > by the > lack of a uniform surface across the topload, providing multiple > > breakout > points, or the cause could be too small of a topload. You > > could try cleaning > up the topload you have to see if things improve, and > > if not, build a larger > topload, taking care to keep it uniform (aluminum > > tape can come in handy for > the seams). > > > > When you get the topload sorted out, you can work on coupling, > by > > raising the primary (or lowering the secondary), gradually, until you > > > start getting racing sparks. When that happens, back it off a bit and > > you > will be as tight as you can be. > > > > Again, good job on this one! > > > > Jon > > SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla