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Re: [TCML] Resonate charging versus brute force.



Hey---

The only real advantage to a resonant system is if you have a power supply whose voltage is too low. As David says, the big disadvantage (besides the cost) is the humongonoid storage capacitor, which has to be about 5x the energy storage of the "chargee" cap to get much advantage. Another approach is to charge the primary cap through a full-wave bridge. The main advantage of this is that you can charge a really big cap from a small transformer, and avoid discharging the cap on the falling half-cycle.

(Can you believe that "humongonoid" isn't in Spellcheck?

---Carl





-----Original Message----- From: David
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 8:29 AM
To: Jim Mora
Cc: Tesla Coil Mailing List
Subject: Re: [TCML] Resonate charging versus brute force.

Hi Jim,

Well, I have the experience with the plain ole asynchronous rotary driven, raw AC from a 10 KVA, 14.4 kV pig. I have at times entertained the idea of the converting my "big pig" Green Monster coil over to a DC res system, but the substantial cost and increase of complexity to accomplish this has kept me ON the launching pad from this project ;-) I just don't fancy the idea of having to add a huge storage cap of several, if not 10's of uFds that can withstand the full primary voltage of the system (huge and dangerous), plus the huge multi-Henry charging choke(s), not to mention the appropriately rated diodes - seems that I would be pretty near buying my current system all over again :-/

With adequate ballasting, I am able to get plenty of "raw power" from my simple pig, asynchronous rotary driven system, though. Plenty of fat and very bright, 11 to 13 foot discharges! ;-) Of course, I'm told that once you go DRSSTC, you'll never go back to SG coiling ;-) and there have certainly been some quantum leaps in the development of SS coiling in the past decade, but I just can't seem to get together the patience or the funds to "start all over again" ;-)

David Rieben

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On Jun 24, 2014, at 8:36 AM, "Jim Mora" <wavetuner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Group,



I am wondering what experience people have had in DC resonance charging
versus say 10KW pig powered and variable inductively ballasted of like order
with synchronous and higher speed asynchronous rotary gaps. That of coarse
is a huge set of topics, but general experience would be of practical use.



It is my intention to try all three over time as I am sure many on this list
have done. What is the practical best "bang for buck" and considerable
effort. Please remember to reply to all even if you are flaming me ;-^)



Thanks Much,

Jim Mora



While this old school technology is nothing like present SS and modulated
coils, it is still awesome. I guess this is more a discussion of elegance
versus raw power fairly well tuned.

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