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Re: [TCML] srsg to vari speed rsg



Well, many moons ago I used a VFD for the gap. No it was not synchronous but could hold a frequency relatively well. The VFD never experienced any issues from the sparks, but the issues I did run into was turning the 3ph 2HP motor under such minimal load as a spark gap. It's very easy to go over with such a light load and cause the VFD to fault (adding ramp up and down time solved that issue). When a VFD fault occurs, you can usually set a VFD to coast at fault or to brake at fault. I chose to let it coast (for obvious reasons). I also used a fault output from the VFD into a PLC to control the contactor and remove power when a VFD fault occured.

I mainly ran it to vary brake rates via a potentiometer at the control panel (I'm was not a fan of synchronous gaps). I did note my coil gap speed and spark output was best at about 360 bps, however it was more fun to just throttle back and forth the gap. You do need to set the phase adjustment as with any gap either mechanically or electrically. In my case, I used a super low rpm gear motor to vary the gap angle on movable arms.

It worked reasonably well. If I were to do another RSG coil (I won't, I'm way too lazy), I would again go the VFD route. I just had a lot of fun with that.

Take care,
Bart

On 4/23/2014 8:25 AM, Bert Hickman wrote:
A VFD makes most sense if you use a DC resonant charging system. A properly designed DC resonant design will allow you to smoothly vary output voltage and power without the need for any phase-syncing, since the tank cap is always recharged between firings at any firing rate. This approach works especially well for high power systems using 3-phase gap motors.

However, A VFD can be used to make an asynchronous variable speed gap. Using a VFD in your existing system would work in a fashion similar to driving a DC motor from a variable DC supply. You WILL lose the capability of truly syncing and properly phasing your motor to the line. Also, some speeds near multiples of line frequency have the potential to overvolt your tank cap or HV transformer, so make sure you have a safety gap bridging your rotary gap or a Terry filter.

I like Jim's idea of driving your HV transformer from the same VFD and using a true synchronous motor would permit you to sync the gap to the line. I'm not sure just how well the VFD, HV transformer, and motor will all play together, and I don't recall any coilers using this technique before. If you try this method, you'll probably need to use a fixed mechanical phase adjustment on your gap since the Freau controller's phase relationship will change with operating frequency.

Bert

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