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This may seem a bit off the wall, and I don't have any pictures of it (perhaps Bert does) but at a Teslathon hosted by Bert Pool about 5 to 10 years ago I remember we took a standard two tungsten electrode spark gap mounted on a porcelain base out of a welder, put it in about 1 inch thick Styrofoam ice cooler and then poured about a gallon of liquid nitrogen on it. This made for a super fast quench and at -346 F it was self cooling. If memory serves, the secondary was about 4 foot and we got 6 foot arks from it. Another interesting affect was because of the UV output of the gap, when the coil was shut off the liquid nitrogen & cooler fluoresced for a significant period of time. Hitby13kw _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla