Re: [TCML] At a loss. No light on second coil

[Atomic <atomicrox@xxxxxxxxx>]

See if fluorescent lamps light up from the RF. If they do then the coil is
just not being able to break out.. if they don't light up at all then I'd
guess the gap isn't quenching properly, like others already said.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Andrew Webster <andrew600rr@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Thank you,
>
> I think that is my next step. Ill start with 5 MOCs per side in
> between the first and second MOTs on each leg (AKA Greg from Hot
> Streamer) and then go from there. I guess I was more of less wondering
> if it was possible to overwhelm your coil if the power was too high?
>
> No carbon
> Great grounding (8' copper rod buried straight down in semi-sandy moist
> soil)
> Primary, secondary, toroid were pulled from a working coil. Just much
> less power.
> Cap and gap are firing great. You cannot miss the sound of the gap
> snapping that hard.
>
> I have even run it in total darkness to see if I was arcing somewhere
> and didn't notice. Unless its on the back side somewhere I cannot find
> anything. Which is why I am so confused as to how I screwed this up so
> bad.
>
> My other thought was to lower the capacitance to see if it broadens
> the tuning. Maybe its just too tight?
>
> Ill setup with the MOCs and report back. Most likely this weekend. If
> anyone else has any ideas I would love to hear them.
>
> Thanks again all, it will be a great day to see this come to life.
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Atomic <atomicrox@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I'm no expert but I've seen MOT coils using MOCs as capacitive ballasts
> in
> > series with the HV side of the MOTs. Might want to try that out..
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Brandon Hendershot <
> > brandonhendershot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> I'll second that. If you're confident in your numbers and you've got
> that
> >> much raw power pumping into the coil without any output, then it seems
> to
> >> me like a power arc. Nice catch David.
> >>
> >> Brandon H.
> >>
> >> On Mar 25, 2013 5:51 PM, "David Dean" <deano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Monday, March 25, 2013 04:26:16 PM Andrew Webster wrote:
> >> > > So I built a 4 pack MOT
> >> > > stack and wired for 240. Center grounded and under oil. There is no
> >> > > ballast on this and I can draw some nasty sparks off of this.
> >> >
> >> > So your gap is not quenching, hence no sparks.
> >> >
> >> > >I am using a static sucker gap as I melted the brass off of the ARSG
> >> > >in seconds. The static gap is holding up better to the heat until I
> >> > >can get some tungsten.
> >> >
> >> > I probably should not say this, but:
> >> > You might try a 100 foot extension cord to act as a "resistive
> ballast"
> >> > keep run time short, as the extension cord will heat up, could melt,
> >> could start
> >> > a fire. Only a test :-D
> >> >
> >> > Or better, do a real ballast.
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