RE: [TCML] NST and HV Cables

["Phil Tuck" <phil@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I fully agree, they do definitely look electronic, but the weight says
otherwise, the 7kG or to us, 15 pounds, is about right for an iron one. 
Just how many do you use to power your Green Monster?   (I'm not serious,
before someone chimes in)

Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of drieben
Sent: 21 October 2011 16:43
To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
Subject: Re: [TCML] NST and HV Cables

Haha, Thanks for the clarification, Phil. Yep, that word has the same
meaning here on this side of the big pond, too.
BTW, just from the photos on their website, those trans- formers look a
whole lot like the solid state variety, which would red flag their
eligibility for SG Tesla coil duty. Even here in the USA, the solid state HV
power supplies are replacing the old style 60 Hz driven, non-GFI'd
transformers for neon sign duty and the old style iron core units are becom-
ing increasing difficult to find, although they are still showing up on
eBay.

David Rieben


----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Tuck" <phil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Tesla Coil Mailing List'" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: [TCML] NST and HV Cables


> David,
> Every time I wrote FART I smiled myself. It is the [unfortunate] name of 
> the
> Italien company that produces them. I wasn't sure if fart meant the same 
> in
> the USA - obviously it does.
>
> http://www.fart-neon.com/
>
>
> Phil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of drieben
> Sent: 20 October 2011 16:42
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [TCML] NST and HV Cables
>
> Hi Phil, all,
>
> I must have missed some part of this conversation but could someone please
> tell me what a "FART" is? I didn't know there were NSTs of the flatulent
> variety. ;^)
>
> David Rieben
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phillip Strauss" <pstrauss1947@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [TCML] NST and HV Cables
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I have used a 10Kv 100mA Fart with it's GFI disabled  and protected with a
> Terry filter to great effect. A word of warning, I destroyed an earlier
> identical (new) transformer by flicking it on and off at max voltage 
> across
> a spark gap with nothing else connected so beware back EMF effects.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From:  Phil Tuck <phil@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
> To:  'Tesla Coil Mailing List' <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>;
> Subject:  RE: [TCML] NST and HV Cables
> Sent:  Thu, Oct 20, 2011 7:25:37 AM
>
>
> Binny wrote "curious how you came up with the 10KV value. Looking at the
> nameplate under KV I see 3,75-3,75 and that leads me to believe it is a
> 7,500 volt 60 MA output not 10/60. "
>
> Bimmy: Pour yourself a drink, sit down and relax, and re-read my post 
> again,
>
> Rixong: Yes it appears to be a heavy iron type even though it looks like a
> new type electronic one. The trouble though is that the sensors for earth
> leakage and open-circuit protection will cause problems. Now, if you can
> actually disconnect them it would be ok, but a lot that look like that 
> have
> the parts buried inside the resin, the FART one you have fortunately 
> didn't.
>
> Later resin filled ones without the protection circuitry, could be better 
> in
> some respects, as a modern resin would be better than old fashioned tar of
> course, which may have voids in it. Tar is also
> probably a worse insulator
> than modern resin.
> I used four 10Kv FARTS the same as yours in parallel for quite a while
> before getting a pig.
>
> Phil
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