RE: [TCML] comment about new coilers

["Miles Waldron" <mileswaldron@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Gary,

Bart makes the point exactly; this is all backwards, and I find new
coilers often times don't even listen to the answers they get. We should
not be spoon feeding these guys. Teaching science is about safety, and
teaching people how to teach them selves. Did Scott actually learn
anything? Or did someone just tell him what to do. Sorry if I am
splitting at hairs, but a good solid period of confusion, followed by a
minor explosion of some sort, has taught me more about tesla coils than
anything else. The experimental method, for example.

Miles

-----Original Message-----
From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of bartb
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:25 PM
To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
Subject: Re: [TCML] comment about new coilers

Listen guys, if a coiler has an issue it will usually unfold "after" the

purchase when the coil isn't working. We will all attempt to derive the 
reason. I personally don't want new coilers to purchase junk TC items 
(ever). I would rather they ask before they buy, but this is a step 
completely in the hands of the coiler. As soon as they ask, they will 
get the info needed.

I personally have not made purchase mistakes in my coiling and the 
reason why is because I consulted the TCML first. I've been coiling for 
a while now, but I still am green on many things. Should I purchase 
something (even after several years of coiling) which I feel I don't 
have a good handle on, I will consult the TCML first. Experience or time

with coiling is certainly valuable, but none of us knows everything. 
This is just one major reason why the TCML is so valuable.

Take care,
Bart

Lau, Gary wrote:
> Hi Miles,
>
> I don't get your point.  I don't think there's a one among us, myself
included, who early in our coiling experience, hasn't spent money on
something that ultimately proved to be useless for coiling.  How is it
we're making it too easy?  There's no doubt that Scott has learned about
what kind of NST to use.  I believe that the replies to his post have
included scientific explanations as to why the current NST is
unsuitable.  Teaching science is what this list is all about!
>
> Regards, Gary Lau
> MA, USA
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Miles Waldron
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:41 PM
>> To: 'Tesla Coil Mailing List'
>> Subject: [TCML] comment about new coilers
>>
>> I had this kind of problem a lot with new coilers on e-bay. They
thought
>> they were so smart to buy solid state neon sign drivers instead of
>> usable non GFI NSTs. Somehow, as a community, we are making this too
>> easy. New coilers especially those who do not listen, will make
mistakes
>> just like everyone else. Let them mess things up for awhile, and
>> *learn*, just like the rest of us do. Isn't teaching science
important
>> anymore?
>>
>> Miles
>>     
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