---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:43:29 -0700 From: Ed Phillips <evp@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Pondermotive force Wire is a solid-state plasma. What causes sausage and kink instabilities? How can you crush coins and quarters? Whence doth the pondermotive force act? Scott" Can crushers are simple but pmf????? Ed