Re: water pipe RF ground. in an apartment! (fwd)

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:57:37 -0700
From: Barton B. Anderson <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: water pipe RF ground. in an apartment! (fwd)

Yes Peter, that's an excellent idea for all the reasons stated.

Funny, my garage gets so cluttered with crap that I often am envious of 
those who live in the country and have something like a nice shop to 
play with their toys. But when I think about those residing in 
apartments and wanting to do some coiling, my heart goes out them. I 
guess I've got it pretty good (even with all the clutter).

Take care,
Bart

Tesla list wrote:

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>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:26:49 +0800
>From: Peter Terren <pterren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: water pipe RF ground. in an apartment!
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>I would be rather pissed if I lived in an appartment and someone ran a TC 6 
>feet below me.  It will be noisy and will threaten my computer equipment, TV 
>reception and Hi Fi equipment. Let alone a potential safety risk.
>Expect other tenants and apartment owners to be pissed also.
>Run it in a Faraday cage or not at all.  A cage is not hard to build.
>I live in a country block distant from neighbours and I still notify them if 
>I am going to do something disturbing.
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>Peter
>http://tesladownunder.com
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>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:13:51 -0500
>From: Glen McGowan <glen.mcgowan@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: water pipe RF ground. (fwd)
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>Will a counterpoise work if you live on the second or third floor?  For some
>reason I had it in my mind that a counterpoise had to be laying close to
>earth not suspended in mid air (relative to earth ground).  I suspect a fair
>bit of education is heading my way.  :D
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>I used a counterpoise briefly in my garage until the water/gas pipe caught
>my eye. I'm actually clamped on where it physically comes up from the dirt
>into the house.
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>On 8/30/07, Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:30:09 -0700
>>From: Barton B. Anderson <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: water pipe RF ground. (fwd)
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>>Hi Scott,
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>>To check it, measure the resistance from ground to pipe. In an apartment
>>there's just not a good RF Ground available. It's either copper piping,
>>mains ground, or a counterpoise. None are ideal. Water pipe and mains
>>ground both have a possibility of coming in contact with others in the
>>apartment complex. A counterpoise does not and might be a safer solution
>>from a human safety standpoint given the limited options.
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>>Take care,
>>Bart
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>>>Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:47:27 -0400
>>>From: Scott Bogard <teslas-intern@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: water pipe RF ground.
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>>>Hey guys,
>>>    Just one quick question, would it be a bad idea to use the cold
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>>>Scott Bogard.
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