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Re: dual mot tc (fwd)

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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:35:06 -0700
From: Clive Hansen <mrclivehansen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: dual mot tc (fwd)

Okay, from what I can gather several glass bottles filled with brine with
copper tubes inside them sitting a container filled with brine would
probably work the best for what I have access to. That is probably what I
will go with then.

On 10/6/07, Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:49:04 +1000
> From: A. Wang 2007 T476202 <tangara_02@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: dual mot tc (fwd)
>
>
> Sounds fine to me, though you might need a few for a decent tank
> capacitance value. That's something I need to try making meself. If you
> can, it is slightly more preferable to try to get a commercial pulse
> capacitor, MMC, or doorknobs. But otherwise bottle capacitors work better
> than some other commercial capacitors.
>
> Good luck with your coil,
>
> A.Wang 2007
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> > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:17:38 -0600
> > From: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: dual mot tc (fwd)
> >
> >
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> > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 07:37:05 -0700
> > From: Clive Hansen <mrclivehansen@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: dual mot tc (fwd)
> >
> > I think I will be using caps made from a 2 liter plastic bottle filled
> with
> > salt water with a copper pipe suspended in it and tin foil covering the
> > outside of the bottle. Does anyone think that this would work
> acceptably?
> >
> > On 10/4/07, Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >
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> > > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:12:30 +1000
> > > From: A. Wang 2007 T476202 <tangara_02@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: RE: dual mot tc (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't even bother thinking about the MO caps. They have high losses at
> > > 500Hz-ish, let alone RF. If you can, get some tinfoil and projector
> > > slides, and you can build a plate capacitor. Otherwise, your plan is
> > > pretty much fine as i see it. I went with a MOT coil myself.
> > >
> > > A.Wang 2007
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> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:43:27 -0600
> > > > From: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: dual mot tc (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:32:40 -0400
> > > > From: Scott Bogard <teslas-intern@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: RE: dual mot tc (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Clive,
> > > >      A few suggestions, wire your MOTs in series/anti-parallel
> > > > configuration, this means have the two MOT cores wired together with
> a
> > > > ground (like a center tap grounded NST) and wire the primaries in
> > > > parallel.  If you cannot draw any arcs between the two HV outs, then
> > > > reverse polarity of only one of MOT primaries.  1/4 cu tubing is
> fine.
> > > > The advantage of this is that the MOTs are working at their ordinary
> > > > voltage ratings, and oil is not necessary (they also run quieter
> this
> > > way,
> > > > as their noise cancels each other out, kind of cool).  18AWG wire is
> > > kind
> > > > of big, unless you plan on building a big secondary, like 12-in
> > > diameter,
> > > > (I assume you plan on using 18 AWG "magnet wire" correct?).  Three
> > > segment
> > > > spark gap should be fine if designed properly, I cannot help you
> there,
> > > > never had good luck with multi-segment gaps, I went strait to a
> rotary
> > > > gap.  You cannot use MO caps for a tank cap, they will be terribly
> > > > inefficient, and I've read about them blowing up in TC use (you
> cannot
> > > > believe everything you read however, perhaps someone on the list can
> > > > verify or discredit this).  Your best bet would be a proper MMC with
> CD
> > > > caps, or if you are really strapped for funds (like me), you could
> build
> > > a
> > > > cap the old fashioned way, check the archives if you are
> interested.  I
> > > > hope this helps, good luck. Scott Bogard.
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:39:01 -0600
> > > > > From: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: dual mot tc (fwd)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:13:47 -0700
> > > > > From: Clive Hansen <mrclivehansen@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Subject: dual mot tc
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >      I am thinking of building a coil using two mots in series
> under
> > > oil
> > > > > with an inductive ballast to limit current. For a tank cap, I want
> to
> > > use
> > > > > two or three microwave oven caps in series. My spark gap will be a
> > > three
> > > > > segment gap quenched by a leaf blower. I want to use 1/4in copper
> > > piping for
> > > > > the primary and 18 gauge wire for the secondary. I must use
> microwave
> > > oven
> > > > > parts because they are very cheap. If anyone sees any problems
> with
> > > this
> > > > > setup please let me know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Clive
> > > > >
> > > > >
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