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Re: Ganging Variacs (fwd)



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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:16:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Yurtle Turtle <yurtle_t@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Ganging Variacs (fwd)

If you get an old one, be sure and clean it out before
using. I think dust bunnies in mine helped contribute
to several flashovers between windings. I think
coiling is harder on a welder than welding; even with
filters, and a TVSS.

Adam

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> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:53:22 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Chip Atkinson <chip@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Ganging Variacs (fwd)
> 
> Man, I have to agree with Dave.  You can get a
> decent arc welder on ebay.
> I use a lincoln AC-225.  I have it wired in series
> and put a plug on the
> outside of the power cabinet.  On top of it all I
> have an arc welder!
> 
> My feeling is that why wreck either a good variac or
> a good welder when
> you can set things up so you can preserve both?
> 
> The arc welders on ebay are around $100-200 and
> shipping seems to max out
> at $55.99.
> 
> Looking on ebay, variacs are at least that.
> 
> Chip
> 
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Tesla list wrote:
> 
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> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:42:26 +0000
> > From: david baehr <dfb25@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Ganging Variacs (fwd)
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Why waste a nice Variac ?,...get a cheap variable
> shunt  arc welder and
> > be done with it,
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
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> >  
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> > 
> >       From:  "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >       To:  tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> >       Subject:  Re: Ganging Variacs (fwd)
> >       Date:  Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:23:45 -0600 (MDT)
> >       >
> >       >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >       >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:08:58 -0700
> >       >From: Barton B. Anderson
> <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >       >To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >       >Subject: Re: Ganging Variacs (fwd)
> >       >
> >       >Hi Terry, Tim,
> >       >
> >       >I did the same with my variac. I split the
> core to prevent
> >       saturation.
> >       >It's been a life saver for me since I only
> use a single
> >       variac with my
> >       >pig. But, if I had a large enough variac or
> two, I wouldn't
> >       have done it
> >       >(as it does ruin the variac for any other
> purpose). But if
> >       it's solely a
> >       >current limiting variac, cutting the core
> will help prevent
> >       saturation
> >       >issues, although I have smoked the brushes
> on this variac
> >       from too much
> >       >current. Even though saturation is
> prevented, current still
> >       flows and
> >       >the components that make up the variac can
> still be damaged
> >       if high enough.
> >       >
> >       >BTW, remove the brushes at least once a
> year and inspect
> >       them. Can
> >       >prevent a bad situation. The smoked brushes
> occurred at my
> >       2005 4th of
> >       >July party. Funny, I just turned the
> current down and the
> >       smoke went
> >       >away. The coil kept on Rockin! The next
> weekend I did the
> >       optopsy and
> >       >found I was running on about 1/3 brush
> surface. I learned
> >       from that
> >       >experience to inspect brushes and replace
> when worn.
> >       >
> >       >Take care,
> >       >Bart
> >       >
> >       >Tesla list wrote:
> >       >
> >       > >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >       > >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:46:40 -0500
> >       > >From: Terry Oxandale <Toxandale@xxxxxxx>
> >       > >To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >       > >Subject: RE: Ganging Variacs (fwd)
> >       > >
> >       > >There has been a great deal of discussion
> on this issue as
> >       well as the
> >       > >parallel aspect. My experience was
> saturation of the
> >       variac core, but
> >       > >this is based upon the core size and
> voltage/turns ratio.
> >       I don't have
> >       > >the greatest understanding of this issue,
> but I believe it
> >       is focused on
> >       > >the fact that only a small portion of the
> core is used in
> >       most of these
> >       > >applications (reduce the number of turns
> reduces which
> >       increases
> >       > >current, but also increases the
> voltage/turns ratio to a
> >       point of
> >       > >saturation.
> >       > >
> >       > >I successfully split the core of my
> variacs (two 1256
> >       variacs in
> >       > >parallel) to prevent this from happening
> and have been
> >       very happy with
> >       > >the modulated current profile as compared
> to the nearly
> >       uncontrolled
> >       > >profile previous to splitting the core.
> It was a lot of
> >       work though.
> >       > >
> >       > >Terry
> >       > >
> >       > >-----Original Message-----
> >       > >From: Tesla list
> [mailto:tesla@xxxxxxxxxx]
> >       > >Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:12 AM
> >       > >To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> >       > >Subject: Ganging Variacs (fwd)
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >       > >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:48:34 -0400
> >       > >From: timjroche@xxxxxxx
> >       > >To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> >       > >Subject: Ganging Variacs
> >       > >
> >       > >I understand about using paralleling
> chokes when using
> >       variacs for
> >       > >voltage
> >       > >control, what about for ganged series
> variacs for current
> >       control or
> >       > >in-other-words, adjustable ballast?
> >       >
> >      
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