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Re: New SISG Coil - Piranha
Original poster: "Barton B. Anderson" <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hey, I've been trying keep up with your SISG experiments. Very cool
as always! You made mention in the past regarding the AC resistance
calc's on other programs vs. measured being way off. I kept note of
this and decided to throw your Piranha coil into Javatc to see how
well I faired. I took the data from:
While modeling, I noticed Fres a little high in Javatc vs. what you
calc'd (132 kHs vs your 128 kHz). I haven't yet modeled the spark
itself (which is my real reason for clarification here). Did you
input a sparklength figure for the data on page 8 and 9?
I also noted your Q calc was 200 where Javatc showed 199 (good).
Also, your AC resistance calc showed 250 and Javatc showed 258 (not
bad at all as far as "calcs" go with these particular outputs).
I was most curious about your primary data. You indicate a pitch of
0.5 and a max turn of 7 (0.25" edge to edge). Yet, in ETesla6 data,
it appears for a diameter of 18", your pitch of 0.5" is actually edge
to edge? Can you clarify?
Tesla list wrote:
Original poster: Vardan <vardan01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
These are all untested preliminary plans so beware!
I have written up the plans for my next SISG coil at:
It will use one of Mark Dunn's nice SISG boards and the new charging
circuit topology. It will have a coil power of 365 watts. Burning
about 250 watts in the resistors and the AC input current is just
over 7 amps at 93 volts input. It has very good power factor but
the resistor loss is a pain. But it has a big fan :-))
It is designed for 240 BPS but should do 120, 240, "more" too if you
crank it up >:)) At 240 BPS it should hit 640 amps peak in the
primary at either 24 or 30 amps RMS. ScanTesla and MicroSim don't
agree there and I have not figured out why yet.
It is not a giant coil. The secondary will be about 12 inches of
#30 wire. I was thinking of one of John's big toroids for the
top. About 18 inches high from the base of the secondary to top of
150nF at 3600V can jump 2 feet but I am using 235nF, so I would
guess about 30 inches to ground. One can jump SISG sections or
individual SIDACS to lower that as one wishes.
It is interesting that the primary "Q" is lower now too!!! Before
with conventional gaps, the Q was devastated by the gap loss. No I
am pushing the primary Q with giant primary capacitance >:-)) Big
early power to the sparks seems like a winner according to vast history...
Coupling can be anything I want from 0.25 down. I am thinking of
having the primary coil on the "underside" of a Lexan sheet this
time so there are no real exposed dangerous things. I have plenty
of primary to secondary distance to play with!
In other news... The SISG was tested for voltage and frequency
effects. It certainly has somewhat lower loss as the voltage is
raised from 300, 600, 900 V as expected. Oddly it also does a bit
better at higher frequency. That might be due to less IGBT instant
heating or the IGBT and diode are hanging "on". The SISG "loves"
cross conduction :o)) But bottom line is, it has no problem with
There is just no hope of doing first notch quenching just by playing
with R4. The later currents required and the gate voltage to
support those currents just don't line up. This is a little more of
an issue with BIG primary caps pushing the primary "Q" down...
So it goes on...