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RE: Re[2]: Capacitor Size
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- Subject: RE: Re[2]: Capacitor Size
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- Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:58:53 -0600
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Original poster: "Lau, Gary" <Gary.Lau@xxxxxx>
Hi Sebas:
There's no formula that can calculate the BPS of
a static gap coil. The gap firing voltage and
the NST charging current dynamics are far too chaotic.
The only measurements that I have recorded were
for my mini coil, using a 4kV/20mA NST, with
120VAC/60Hz in. The mains-resonant cap value for
this NST is calculated to be .013uF. This NST has
had some of its shunts removed for a 38mA
short-circuit current. Not sure if this affects the mains-resonant cap value.
Using a digital storage scope, I scoped the field
coming off the secondary over a 400 msec interval
with a scope probe hanging about 8 feet from the
coil. I tried 3 different cap sizes:
Cap BPS
.012uF 297 BPS
.02uF 207 BPS
.025uF 157 BPS
I should also have pointed out that I could have
achieved 120BPS with any of the cap values if I
Variac'ed the NST voltage down, but no
performance peak occurs at any reduced Variac
setting - it's downhill all the way.
I've not tried it with my mini coil, but with my
larger coil, I have found that at a low Variac
setting, I have been able to achieve a 60BPS mode
of operation that sounds distinctly
different. It seems to be stable for a few
seconds, but quickly reverts to chaotic
mode. Must be those butterflies in Brazil.
Regards, Gary Lau
MA, USA.
> Original poster: Illicium Verum <sebas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> Hello Gary,
>
> Thanks for pointing out. I to thought a static
> sparkgap fired always at 120 BPS.
>
> Is there a formula to calculate the BPS of a SSG?
>
>
> I'm curious, what speed did you measure?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sebas.
>
>
> Thursday, October 6, 2005, 10:08:55 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> > Original poster: "Lau, Gary" <<mailto:Gary.Lau@xxxxxx>Gary.Lau@xxxxxx>
>
>
> > Hi DC:
>
>
> > I assume you meant to say "0.016 at 60 mA".
>
> > Have you actually scoped a coil with a static gap
> > that operates at 120 BPS? Every static gap coil
> > that I've scoped ran at a far higher rate than
> > that. I probably could have achieved 120
> > (chaotic average) BPS, but I would have had to
> > open the gap to an unsafe setting. Since I tend
> > to use a 2X mains-resonant cap size, I would see
> > an even higher BPS had I used a 1.57X cap.
>
> > In my early naïve days of coiling I thought that
> > 120 BPS was the natural and normal mode of
> > operation for a static gap. I know better now
> > and don't wish to perpetuate that misunderstanding.
>
> > Regards, Gary Lau
>
> > MA, USA