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Re: Kaluza and Klein
Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Kaluza and Kline's work is a little above me: [:-) But Einstein spent a
few years on it so I think it has not gone under reported...
But it appears to only be really useful in say super high gravitational
fields or at super high relative speeds approaching that of light. In
those cases, it should help predict the effects of relativity and
distortions of measurements made outside of that (relative) gravity or speed.
However, the gravity here is about 1.0 and pretty steady. The speed at
which my coils travel relative to say surrounding test equipment is far
less than a meter/hour... The coils with heavy transformers travel even
slower :o)) I can adjust for the speed of light in fiber optic cables if
needed. But so far, a 15nS delay has not been a problem.
Perhaps if there were a Tesla coil on say the space station and it were
being monitored from earth, such effects might "begin" to be noticeable
(The GPS system certainly does have to fiddle with relativistic
effects!). But they are not of concern to the average coiler. I certainly
would not discount any measurements or regard all measurments as useless
due to relativistic effects.
I think the real bottom line is if I measure a coil's Fo at 100kHz and some
theory says it should be 123kHz... Well, I would be happy to push the
cal/check button a few times and have a few other folks repeat the test
independently to be sure there is not a testing error, but if the
measurement and the theory just do not agree, I think the "theory" is the
problem. Relativity theory is neat, but I don't think it is a factor at
all for the practical work we do. If anyone knows where the effects of
relativity have poisoned test results or Tesla coiling measurements, please
point those errors out, and we'll fix them.
At 03:40 PM 3/30/2005, you wrote:
> Coils are relativistic devices. You cannot say for sure that the
> ground is firm beneath your feet when taking measurements of
> relativistic effects.
The ground has always held up fine for me and my coils ;-)) I have never
had a problem with measurements once I figured out how to do them
right. Ignoring real world data is.... We'll, I'll stop there...
Kaluza and Klein showed in the 1920's that the Maxwell's equations can be
derived by extending general relativity into five dimensions. This
strategy of using higher dimensions to unify different forces is an active
area of research in particle physics.
Maybe you should read Kaluza Klein. Jared is right from this stand
point. Maybe you and Paul should lighten up a bit and cut him a little slack.
In ten years this list will be arguing about the quantum nature of Tesla
coils. It is just the natural progression of discovery in this scientific