Re: Wireless transmission of power - Oh the Humanity

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Original poster: "BART" <BAPLATING@xxxxxxx>

Hi All,
Dave has a very good point!
I think most of us are just wanting to learn and have fun....

Bart A

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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: Wireless transmission of power - Oh the Humanity


> Original poster: "David Thomson" <dwt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> We all owe you a debt of gratitude.  You are not moderating just any
> kind of list, but a highly focused, science-based discussion group.
> We hear about perceived injustices in the peer reviewed journals all
> the time.  It must be even harder when you are the only "reviewer" and
> everybody knows who you are.
>
> Also, when an emotionally charged issue arises, the volume of posts
> rises dramatically.  It is unrealistic to expect you to give up your
> family life and research time just to read every single post, every
> single day of the year, for several years on end.
>
> It just burns me that some people forget the burden they are placing
> on you by inflaming the list with non-scientific and emotionally
> charged views.  (By the way, I didn't expect for my post with the
> "b******t" word to get through.  I should have flagged it for
> private.)   And like you pointed out, ultimately you will be the one
> turned to.
>
> It seems possible that people on this list could act more mature and
> be more responsible with their right to post.  There is nothing wrong
> with disagreeing with someone and debating the scientific points of a
> Tesla coil related theory by throwing equations, references, and
> experiments at each other.  But purposefully taking comments out of
> context just to smear someone should result in some kind of direct
> response to remind the person that flaming isn't allowed.
>
> Wireless transmission isn't the only thread that excites passion on
> this list.  As I recall, even the discussion of inductance equations
> can cause quite a ruckus.  The problem isn't the topics, but the
> people discussing them.  Yes, there are many old-timer engineers and
> scientists on this list who fully know the bounds of the peer reviewed
> science.  But there are also many experimenters and researchers here,
> too, who are trying to push those boundaries.  It seems the list
> should remain flexible enough to allow for new discoveries, yet
> restrained enough not to lose the scientific method.
>
> Dave
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla@xxxxxxxxxx]
>  > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:46 PM
>  > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
>  > Subject: RE: Wireless transmission of power - Oh the Humanity
>  >
>  > Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  >
>  > Hi Dave,
>  >
>  > Sorry...  But while the vote is going on for the "wireless
>  > power transmission" thread, I think it is best for the voters
>  > to see "all" that it brings...
>  >
>  > I have only cut about 6 posts on Toby's credentials that was
>  > way off topic (not "juicy" stuff, but rather dull
>  > "credential" definitions...) and a few on the price/cost/tax
>  > of TV in England.  "I" got rid of my TV a few week ago - and
>  > I don't miss it!! ;-)))
>  >
>  > This subject seems to go so personal and mean so fast...
>  > That's why it always ends up being a mess and getting
>  > killed....  First they were attacking Toby for being involved
>  > with the circus or something, then they got mad at folks for
>  > not respecting Tesla's more i'll conceived ideas, now it is
>  > Dave's religious beliefs or something....  Next they will
>  > start to blame "me" for "everything" :o)))))  Hey!!  Your
>  > starting that one aren't
>  > you :o)))))))))    And I don't think "I" have posted once on the
>  > issue!!  It always seems to play out the same way every
> time.........
>  >
>  > Too bad since Tesla "goal" for Tesla coils was wireless power
>  > transmission.  But in my term as moderator, it never has
>  > seemed to go anywhere useful and is by far the #1 headache
>  > thread...  I normally only kill say 1 in 200 posts coming in.
>  >  99.9% of the time, everyone is really good :-))  But this
>  > topic needs either "massive" moderation, or just totally
>  > killing the thread all together...  But that just causes more
>  > problems...
>  >
>  > Thus was the reason for the vote.  Only <24 hours left now!!!
>  >  So those that have not voted had better get on it!!
>  >
>  > So...  I ask for a vote!!!
>  >
>  > ==========
>  >
>  > Should the topic of "wireless power transmission" (and it's
>  > closely related
>  > subjects) remain 'on-topic' for the Tesla list.  Or, should
>  > we no longer accept the subject of "wireless power transmission"?
>  >
>  > To vote:
>  >
>  > [  ]  Yes - Accept the subject of "wireless power
>  > transmission" on the Tesla list.
>  >
>  > [  ]  No - Don't accept the subject of "wireless power
>  > transmission" on the Tesla list.
>  >
>  > ==========
>  >
>  > Votes should be sent to:
>  >
>  > teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  >
>  > or, the votes can be sent here to the list (they will not be
>  > forwarded to the list).
>  >
>  > Voting ends late Friday the 18th when I will give the
>  > exciting results!
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  >
>  >          Terry
>  >
>  >
>  > At 05:50 PM 3/17/2005, you wrote:
>  > >
>  > >Terry,
>  > >
>  > >Are you going to allow this kind of b*******?  Daniel makes it
> sound
>  > >like that is the introduction to the theory.  It was taken out of
>  > >context from a discussion on a science/religion site.
>  > >
>  > >Why would you let something like that pass through?
>  > >
>  > >Dave
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > > From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla@xxxxxxxxxx]
>  > > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:32 PM
>  > > > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
>  > > > Subject: RE: Wireless transmission of power - Oh the Humanity
>  > > >
>  > > > Original poster: "Mccauley, Daniel H"
> <daniel.h.mccauley@xxxxxxxx>
>  > > >
>  > > > (Regarding Dave Thompsons "Secrets of Aether" Book)  >"My work
> is
>  > > > referenced, well-reasoned, and based on  >empirical data." -
> Dave
>  > > > Thompson
>  > > >
>  > > > Here is a quote (by Dave Thompson) about his "Secrets of Aether"
>
>  > > > Book from his website.
>  > > >
>  > > > ***************************************************
>  > > > What the theory does show is that:
>  > > >
>  > > > there is ONE God,
>  > > > that this one God gave rise to all physical existence, that all
>  > > > physical existence is really not physical at all, that we are
> all
>  > > > equal, that there was life before birth and therefore also after
>
>  > > > death, and that mind exists in 5 dimensions while the
>  > body exists in
>  > > > only 4.
>  > > > Of course, the theory shows much more than that.  But what we
> see
>  > > > emerging is a neutral paradigm resembling more of the peaceful
>  > > > mystic's teachings, rather than the violent teachings of the
>  > > > victorious warlord.
>  > > >
>  > > > That is one of my most favorite observations about the Aether
>  > > > Physics Model, and why I decided to share it with the world.
>  > > > The Aether Physics Model is science that encourages world peace,
>
>  > > > whereas the present mass/energy paradigm was developed during
> war
>  > > > and encourages only bigger and more dangerous weapons of mass
>  > > > destruction.
>  > > >
>  > > > The Aether Physics Model not only meets the needs of all
>  > scientists,
>  > > > but it also leads the masses in the direction of peace.
>  > How could
>  > > > it be otherwise?  A physics that shows the physical Universe
>  > > > descends from the Mind of God is a constant reminder of our
>  > > > enlightened heritage and encourages people to find a way
>  > to best get
>  > > > to know this God.
>  > > > ****************************************************
>  > > >
>  > > > After an introductory statement like this, how can anyone
>  > take this
>  > > > as serious?  This guy claims that his work is referenced,
>  > and based
>  > > > on real-world empirical data and presented in a quantitative
> way,
>  > > > but come on.  Do you see anything like that in this introductory
>
>  > > > statement?  Please.
>  > > > Lets end these threads on free energy and wireless
>  > transmission of
>  > > > power.
>  > > >
>  > > > Dan
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  >
>  >
>
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