RE: Wireless transmission of power - Oh the Humanity

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Original poster: "David Thomson" <dwt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Terry,

We all owe you a debt of gratitude.  You are not moderating just any
kind of list, but a highly focused, science-based discussion group.
We hear about perceived injustices in the peer reviewed journals all
the time.  It must be even harder when you are the only "reviewer" and
everybody knows who you are.

Also, when an emotionally charged issue arises, the volume of posts
rises dramatically.  It is unrealistic to expect you to give up your
family life and research time just to read every single post, every
single day of the year, for several years on end.

It just burns me that some people forget the burden they are placing
on you by inflaming the list with non-scientific and emotionally
charged views.  (By the way, I didn't expect for my post with the
"b******t" word to get through.  I should have flagged it for
private.)   And like you pointed out, ultimately you will be the one
turned to.

It seems possible that people on this list could act more mature and
be more responsible with their right to post.  There is nothing wrong
with disagreeing with someone and debating the scientific points of a
Tesla coil related theory by throwing equations, references, and
experiments at each other.  But purposefully taking comments out of
context just to smear someone should result in some kind of direct
response to remind the person that flaming isn't allowed.

Wireless transmission isn't the only thread that excites passion on
this list.  As I recall, even the discussion of inductance equations
can cause quite a ruckus.  The problem isn't the topics, but the
people discussing them.  Yes, there are many old-timer engineers and
scientists on this list who fully know the bounds of the peer reviewed
science.  But there are also many experimenters and researchers here,
too, who are trying to push those boundaries.  It seems the list
should remain flexible enough to allow for new discoveries, yet
restrained enough not to lose the scientific method.

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:46 PM
> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Wireless transmission of power - Oh the Humanity
>
> Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Sorry...  But while the vote is going on for the "wireless
> power transmission" thread, I think it is best for the voters
> to see "all" that it brings...
>
> I have only cut about 6 posts on Toby's credentials that was
> way off topic (not "juicy" stuff, but rather dull
> "credential" definitions...) and a few on the price/cost/tax
> of TV in England.  "I" got rid of my TV a few week ago - and
> I don't miss it!! ;-)))
>
> This subject seems to go so personal and mean so fast...
> That's why it always ends up being a mess and getting
> killed....  First they were attacking Toby for being involved
> with the circus or something, then they got mad at folks for
> not respecting Tesla's more i'll conceived ideas, now it is
> Dave's religious beliefs or something....  Next they will
> start to blame "me" for "everything" :o)))))  Hey!!  Your
> starting that one aren't
> you :o)))))))))    And I don't think "I" have posted once on the
> issue!!  It always seems to play out the same way every
time.........
>
> Too bad since Tesla "goal" for Tesla coils was wireless power
> transmission.  But in my term as moderator, it never has
> seemed to go anywhere useful and is by far the #1 headache
> thread...  I normally only kill say 1 in 200 posts coming in.
>  99.9% of the time, everyone is really good :-))  But this
> topic needs either "massive" moderation, or just totally
> killing the thread all together...  But that just causes more
> problems...
>
> Thus was the reason for the vote.  Only <24 hours left now!!!
>  So those that have not voted had better get on it!!
>
> So...  I ask for a vote!!!
>
> ==========
>
> Should the topic of "wireless power transmission" (and it's
> closely related
> subjects) remain 'on-topic' for the Tesla list.  Or, should
> we no longer accept the subject of "wireless power transmission"?
>
> To vote:
>
> [  ]  Yes - Accept the subject of "wireless power
> transmission" on the Tesla list.
>
> [  ]  No - Don't accept the subject of "wireless power
> transmission" on the Tesla list.
>
> ==========
>
> Votes should be sent to:
>
> teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> or, the votes can be sent here to the list (they will not be
> forwarded to the list).
>
> Voting ends late Friday the 18th when I will give the
> exciting results!
>
> Cheers,
>
>          Terry
>
>
> At 05:50 PM 3/17/2005, you wrote:
> >
> >Terry,
> >
> >Are you going to allow this kind of b*******?  Daniel makes it
sound
> >like that is the introduction to the theory.  It was taken out of
> >context from a discussion on a science/religion site.
> >
> >Why would you let something like that pass through?
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:32 PM
> > > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: Wireless transmission of power - Oh the Humanity
> > >
> > > Original poster: "Mccauley, Daniel H"
<daniel.h.mccauley@xxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > (Regarding Dave Thompsons "Secrets of Aether" Book)  >"My work
is
> > > referenced, well-reasoned, and based on  >empirical data." -
Dave
> > > Thompson
> > >
> > > Here is a quote (by Dave Thompson) about his "Secrets of Aether"

> > > Book from his website.
> > >
> > > ***************************************************
> > > What the theory does show is that:
> > >
> > > there is ONE God,
> > > that this one God gave rise to all physical existence, that all
> > > physical existence is really not physical at all, that we are
all
> > > equal, that there was life before birth and therefore also after

> > > death, and that mind exists in 5 dimensions while the
> body exists in
> > > only 4.
> > > Of course, the theory shows much more than that.  But what we
see
> > > emerging is a neutral paradigm resembling more of the peaceful
> > > mystic's teachings, rather than the violent teachings of the
> > > victorious warlord.
> > >
> > > That is one of my most favorite observations about the Aether
> > > Physics Model, and why I decided to share it with the world.
> > > The Aether Physics Model is science that encourages world peace,

> > > whereas the present mass/energy paradigm was developed during
war
> > > and encourages only bigger and more dangerous weapons of mass
> > > destruction.
> > >
> > > The Aether Physics Model not only meets the needs of all
> scientists,
> > > but it also leads the masses in the direction of peace.
> How could
> > > it be otherwise?  A physics that shows the physical Universe
> > > descends from the Mind of God is a constant reminder of our
> > > enlightened heritage and encourages people to find a way
> to best get
> > > to know this God.
> > > ****************************************************
> > >
> > > After an introductory statement like this, how can anyone
> take this
> > > as serious?  This guy claims that his work is referenced,
> and based
> > > on real-world empirical data and presented in a quantitative
way,
> > > but come on.  Do you see anything like that in this introductory

> > > statement?  Please.
> > > Lets end these threads on free energy and wireless
> transmission of
> > > power.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
>
>