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Re: Parallel resonant DRSSTC
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Original poster: Sue Gaeta <sgsparky@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Thanks to all who replied. Most seem to agree on the impedance matching
being a very big issue. I didn't think of that, and it makes sense since
the solid state circuitry utilises much higher currents.
>Original poster: "Steve Conner"
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>"Just my $.20 worth on this-
>1) Parallel resonant DRSSTCs do exist. I have seen two made by Vladimiro
>Mazzilli and Liviu Vasiliu. The secret is to make the inverter
current-fed rather than voltage >fed.They used the so-called "Royer
oscillator"push-pull circuit with two IGBTs. IMO this >SSTC design is very
simple and elegant and deserves more attention than it gets. But it's
not >so easy to use in pulsed operation because of the choke in the DC link."
There are quite a few of you guys on 4HV using this circuit to power
flyback transformers, and getting really phenominal flaming discharges.
Very impressive. Burt Hickman also mentioned this circuit to me quite a
while ago, and said that it is a very good circuit. I want to persue this
as a SSTC project for the future. As of this morning, I am finished playing
with the P460s and I am going to start working on my DRSSTC using the 45
amp IGBTs. After I am done with that I want to play with a Royer circuit.
As you said it looks like it needs more attention.
>"This is true. But remember that in the DRSSTC we need a very fast and
violent delivery of >power to a resonator with a Q of about 10."
I like the way you worded that. "Violent delivery" :-)
>Original poster: "Black Moon"
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>Just a random note, but maybe look at class C or class E rf amps? they
effectively use solid >state parallel resonant circuits with low conduction
time (or a ring circuit to provide low turnon >voltage/current in class E
and hence very low turnon loss and extream efficancy 90%+)
I remember that I posted a link on here a while ago, where the guy went
into a lot of detail about how to design class E transmitters.
<http://www.classeradio.org/>http://www.classeradio.org/ I have to admit
that I only read a little bit of it. I think I need to go back and study it
more thoroughly now. Alot of it doesn't pertain to what we are doing but I
think a lot of good info can be gleaned from that. Somewhere he mentions
something about tuning out the output capacitance of a MOSFET so that it
can be used at higher frequencies. I thought that it would be interesting
to choose devices with an output capacitance that would be easily resonated
with a primary, and a secondary would have to be designed for that
frequency. I don't know how practical this would be since I have not really
studied it in depth yet. The people who simulate circuits could probably
figure out how rediculous this idea is relatively quickly :-)
>Original poster: "Bob (R.A.) Jones"
>An other way of looking at it is to note that a parallel L C is low
impedance at all frequencies >other than resonance. So if you apply a
square wave from a low impedance to it the harmonic >currents are huge
because it effectively a sort circuit.
This square waves with all the it's harmonics is something I didn't even
think about. That is a very good point!
>To address your particular question about almost no current thru the
switched. That's not >true. The current thru the switches is determined by
the power you decide to pump in to the >system by selecting the primary
turns, operating frequency and mode etc.
I was actually thinking of the massive ringing current that would flow
between the primary and resonating capacitor if the parallel resonant
circuit was used instead of series. When the switch closes current would
flow through it to charge up the capacitor. I see your point, it would look
like a short in the very beginning of the pulse.
Sue