Re: really cool link to so cool effect's

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Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-twfpowerelectronics-dot-com>

Hi All,

In a completely unrelated conversation today, Danielle Stampe and GWAR came 
up.  Danielle often performs that human fireball Tesla coil stunt.  I guess 
she went out and got some pretty heavy duty safety certifications!!  Makes 
it far easier to perform her stunts with some "heavy duty paper" for the 
safety inspectors!  I guess she is also a Harvard grad...

Nice to see one of the big time performers of the stunt really stressing 
safety!!

Cheers,

         Terry



At 02:42 PM 5/15/2004, you wrote:

>These experiments can be done with safety.  We train our TC museum
>presenters to do it --- and it's done in several museums nationwide up to 3
>times daily using our equipment.
>
>Now the bad news.  A shark diver's metal mesh suit is required which costs
>around $8,500 new and $3,800 used so it's an expensive procedure.  They wear
>the shark suit with metal mesh head cover and metal mesh matching gloves.
>The demonstrator can wear a suitable non-flammable suit or costume over the
>shark suit but one has to be trained to do the demo in a certain fashion to
>preclude any danger of fire in the costume.
>
>Dr. Resonance
>
>Resonance Research Corporation
>E11870 Shadylane Rd.
>Baraboo   WI   53913
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Most people that do the human fireball stunt learned it directly from
> > others.  That way they could learn the many "important tips" like not
> > setting your hair on fire or not pulling an arc off your nose...  As far
>as
> > I know, Henry Transtrom was the "first" person to do the trick.  Transtrom
> > was a electrical engineer and showman with vast knowledge of AC high
> > voltage electricity.  He was well skilled to "try it first".  Of course,
>he
> > was also the "first" to get killed....
> >
> > Tesla may have done similar things, but I think Transtrom is the person
>who
> > really made the "big show".  Of course, Tesla got the crap shocked out of
> > him in 1895 by a 3 foot power arc to his shoulder which almost killed
> > him.  His assistant snapped the power off instantly saving him...
> >
> > Forgive if we all get pretty scared when people start asking about sitting
> > on coils or playing with arcs.  There is a vast amount of really bad
> > information out there and the possibility of somebody casually trying and
> > dying is high.  The expert's really only claim to fame is that they have
> > not died yet...  It is sort of like Robert Knievel teaching somebody how
>to
> > do motor cycles stunts.  He may be the best at it, but...
> >
> > Also, today's Tesla coils are significantly more powerful than the
> > cardboard and plate glass coils of yesterday.  A relatively small NST
> > system can easily rival the usual stunt coils of times gone by.  Unlike a
> > kid in the 50's wiring up a coil to make 6 inch arcs.  Today, the same kid
> > can push 6 foot arcs!!  As we get better at making coils, the dangers also
> > increase...  In general, touching arcs in anyway is just not safe at all
> > and we are not real anxious to help people try.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >          Terry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 03:26 PM 5/14/2004, you wrote:
> > >I'm not trying to call anyone a coward, but the statement that it should
>not
> > >be done by some1 who has never done it before doesnt make sense. Someone
>did
> > >it and succeeded first. Whats the whole point of giving advice on how to
>do
> > >it then telling people to hire someone and just sit by and watch.
> > >
> > >---Eric
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > >To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > >Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 1:38 PM
> > >Subject: Re: really cool link to so cool effect's
> > >
> > >
> > > > Original poster: BunnyKiller <bunikllr-at-bellsouth-dot-net>
> > > >
> > > > this one is going to get alot of responces....
> > > >
> > > > first off which effect are you refering to??  the upper left picture?
> > > > if thats the one, it is easily done BUT the dangers involved are a
>MAXIMUM
> > > > threat. One wrong arc to a grounded object and you are toast....
>also
> > >the
> > > > travel of HF HV thru the body is now being understood a bit better and
>it
> > > > has been found that it does damage nerve tissue and the flesh where
>the
> > > > streamers exit.
> > > >
> > > > Some of the set up tips include  a very well insulated platform
>elevated
> > > > from ground at least 3 times the distance the longest arc can travel (
> > >hard
> > > > part here is finding a material that has that well of an insulating
> > > > capacity) , a drop wire from the tesla coil toroid to a near secure
>ground
> > > > to limit the streamer length, NO overhead objects within 5 times the
> > > > maximum streamer length ( just in case you stand up while its on) , a
>set
> > > > wires from the platform to the actors finger tips to reduce the HF HV
>thru
> > > > the body but that really doesnt help ( I had set up a plastic skeleton
>on
> > > > top of my toroid with latex wings on it and ran wires to the wing
> > > > tips   needless to say, the wing tips STILL caught on fire where the
>wire
> > > > exited), at least 3 manned kill switches constantly being monitored
>when
> > > > the coil/actor is activated.
> > > > The easiest way to do this visual is to hire a proffesional    too
>many
> > > > variables to go wrong for a "never done that before" type of person to
> > > > attempt...
> > > >
> > > > Scot D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tesla list wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Original poster: Jimbo07031982-at-aol-dot-com
> > > > >This is a web address for a stunt performed with a tesla coil haven't
> > > > >totally figured out how the did but I am trying if any of you can
>figure
> > > > >it out let me know please cause I will be working at a haunted house
>this
> > > > >year and think that it would be a nice effect to have at a safe
>distance
> > > > >from the crowd of course..
> > > > ><http://www.hvfx.co.uk/stunts.html>www.hvfx.co.uk/stunts.html it's
>called
> > > > >the lightning man stunt and is the only one with video of it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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