Re: MMC or Maxwell? Which is better?

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Original poster: "Christopher Boden" <chrisboden-at-hotmail-dot-com> 

Sorry, but I have to comment on that one.

You're insane.

Most of the MMC orders we've filled are for $100 and less, it's rare that I 
fill one over $300.

THOUSANDS? no

The only people who buy that many caps from us are people that build coils 
for a living (like Dr.R.) and need parts for a 20 coils at a time.

I have a collection of over 50 Maxwell and other brands of commercial pulse 
caps. They all have 2 things in common.

They're all from coiling use.

And they're ALL DEAD.

There are hundreds of complete Geek Group MMC cap arrays in use around the 
world right now. Consisthing of thousands of our capacitors in both Tesla 
Coil and HVDC applications.

Know how many failues we've had?

2

yeah, 2

If you construct the MMC properly (we have detailed instructions on our 
site) the odds on it failing are astronomical. So good in fact that if it's 
the result of a manufacturer defect (and not you building it wrong or 
destroying it though improper use, negligence, or plain stupidity) you can 
send it back to us for testing and we'll fix it and send it back to you for 
free.

Try that with anyone else.

Most places, if you tell them you're using it for a Tesla Coil won't even 
SELL them to you. Because people are STUPID and try to send them back to 
the manufacturer after blowing them with amatour coil building. Enough 
people do this (especially if they're rude about it) and the manufactuer 
simply stops selling to coilers.

The Geek Group has worked for years to bring the absolulute best caps to 
coilers. We've worked out a deal with CDE to get them at the best possible 
price, and we ship them EVERYWHERE. We have MMCs in use all over the globe.

The question of what is better, there is to question. Unless you're working 
in the MASSIVE size ranges (50kVA or bigger) it's no contest, Geek Group 
MMCs are the way to go.

www.thegeekgroup-dot-org/mmc



Christopher "Duck" Boden Geek#1
President / C.E.O. / Alpha Geek
The Geek Group
www.thegeekgroup-dot-org
Because the Geek shall inherit the Earth!





>From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
>To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>Subject: Re: MMC or Maxwell? Which is better?
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:00:09 -0700
>
>Original poster: Kreso Bukvic <kreso.bukvic-at-kc.htnet.hr>
>
>I blew a maxwell and il buy it again! The MMC will work good if you spend
>few thousand bucks! Overrating mmc-is bS!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
>To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:18 PM
>Subject: Re: MMC or Maxwell? Which is better?
>
>
> > Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-twfpowerelectronics-dot-com>
> >
> > IMHO, I would not consider using a commercial cap at all.  There are many
> > stories of expensive commercial cap failures.  The Geek groups caps never
> > seem to fail.
> >
> > The charts the Geek group uses assumes 200% voltage margin, 150% RMS and
> > Peak current margin, 100% voltage reversal, etc...   The quality of the
> > Geek caps is untouchable buy the basically hand made commercial caps.
>MMC
> > also contain no oil.
> >
> > If one were going to pay say $500 for a commercial cap, ask them if it is
> > rated for Tesla coil use.  When they say no, believe them...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >          Terry
> >
> > At 07:21 AM 2/26/2004, you wrote:
> > >  I'm wondering what is the opinion of the experienced coilers and
> > > experts. Which is the better choice for a TC tank cap, an MMC of CDE
> > > 942Cs or commercial pulse cap such as Maxwell.
> >
> >
>

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