Re: without wires?

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Original poster: Mddeming-at-aol-dot-com 

Unfortunately, Tesla's use of the ionosphere is another one of those urban 
myths that just won't die, even though it has been "buried" several times 
on this list.
     Tesla describes in patent No. 645,576 using the upper region of the 
troposphere (approx.10-15 miles high) as his conduction layer.
     The ionosphere (approx.50-200 miles high) has pressures 100-1000 times 
too low for transmission by conduction as Tesla envisioned it. He specified 
required air pressure as 100~150 mmHg.
     The existence of the ionosphere was not even established until several 
years after the Wardenclyffe tower was demolished, Even the theoretical 
possibility of its existence wasn't proposed by Oliver Heaviside until 2 
years AFTER Tesla's patent was issued.

As stated many times before, it is a common mistake of science buffs to 
read back into the history of science and technology, developments which 
occurred at much later dates. Example: the USS Nautilus, the first 
nuclear-powered sub was mis-named due to a mistake at Walt Disney Studios. 
Jules Verne's sub was envisioned by himself as powered by a "Pile", but a 
"Voltaic" Pile (i.e.a battery). The "Atomic Pile" (aka reactor) had just 
recently been invented at the time the Disney movie version of "20,000 
Leagues Under the Sea" was being made, and bingo! it was assumed by the 
Disney crowd that Verne meant the latter. After millions of people had seen 
the movie, even the Navy couldn't buck the idea, and the myth of the 
Nautilus has been with us ever since. (Walt wouldn't mis-inform us!!)

     In the next few decades, it may be possible to test Tesla's system as 
envisioned at 10-15 miles altitude using a balloon with a tether/conductor 
of carbon nano-tubes. And in a few years, someone will claim, in all 
sincerity, that Tesla also envisioned buckyballs and nano-tubes.

Matt D.

In a message dated 7/24/04 8:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
tesla-at-pupman-dot-com writes:
Original poster: "mercurus2000" <mercurus2000-at-cox-dot-net>

He wasn't gonna transmit power in the way most coilers think, He wanted to
use the globe and ionosphere as two parts of a spherical capacitor, pumping
electrical energy into both, and setting up resonance with the schumann
cavity. It's one of the main reasons why many radio engineers and many
coilers think his dreams of transmitting power was impossible, they continue
to think of the Tesla coil as a air core resonant radio antenna, which it
technically wasn't designed for in the end, Tesla designed it as a
electromagnetic pump, when coupled with the conductive ionosphere and
conductive earth, the standard far field laws don't apply since the antenna
(ionosphere) now completely surrounds all the receiving devices, everyone
and everything would practically be inside a waveguide connected to Tesla's
large coil. A experiment I thought to test on a small scale his design was
to get a metal disk of extremely large diameter, (a few hundred feet or more
in a large field, connect the top of the coil to this and the ground to of
course ground, now you'll notice the tubes will light brightly wherever you
are standing under the large metal disk. Expand the disk and you'll be able
to draw power from further and further distances. Just now expand this
design out a few thousand fold and use the ionosphere as the metal disk and
you'll see what Tesla was talking about. Of course if you have your
receiving device tuned to the same frequeny of the coil setup, you'll get
alot more power than just lighting the tube up.
Adam
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Subject: without wires?


 > Original poster: "steve" <steve_vance-at-cablelynx-dot-com>
 >
 > Hi list,
 > Quick question. I have been coiling about a year and never really thought
 > about this. We all know that Tesla dreamed of using his creation to
transmit
 > electricity to homes without the use of wires. Obviously the first
 > realization of his dream was the creation of the Tesla Coil but how was
the
 > electricity supposed to be received? I know about lighting a gas tube, I
 > have done this myself, but really, This is not a very efficient way to
make
 > light. How was the tc output supposed to be received and converted to
useful
 > power over any reasonable distance?(inverse square law) What am I missing?
 >
 > Steve Vance
 >
 >