Original poster: "David Trimmell" <humanb-at-chaoticuniverse-dot-com> Dan thanks for all your hard work. I grabbed two! I am back on the list; after a time. I notice the new found interest in VTTC's and STTC's, all good. Working on some new stuff myself -still will have to nail down the audio grid mod thing! Regards, David Trimmell