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Re: NST replacements



Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <dhmccauley-at-spacecatlighting-dot-com>


You guys are a bit panicky.  Believe me, there will be amples amount of
standard NSTs available for years to come.  The millions upon millions
already in service
and/or sitting in peoples houses, junk yards, etc.. are NOT simply going to
disappear.




 > Don't worry Harvey, you'll always be able to buy a current limited HV
 > transformer for scientific (or artistic, or whatever) experimentation...
 >
 > What you won't be able to do (indirectly because of regulation) is be able
 > to get one for free (or cheap) as scrap.
 >
 > What it will force the would-be scientist to do is more cost/benefit
 > analysis.. but, everyone has had to do that anyway...
 >
 > Scenario:
 > "A" has an idea they'd like to try out. The first cut at testing the idea
 > involves using a 15 kV -at- 30 mA current limited transformer. Investigation
 > reveals that getting such an item (custom made, because they're no longer
 > mass market devices) would cost, for instance, $500.  "A" now has several
 > alternatives:
 >
 > 1) Decide that testing the idea is worth $500 and just pay up (the
 > dedicated amateur with high income approach)
 >
 > 2) Convince someone else that the idea is worth $500, and get them to pay
 > up (the research scientist with grant applications approach)
 >
 > 3) Figure out another way to test the idea that doesn't use the 15 kV -at- 30
 > mA ransformer -- maybe a MOT -- maybe a 4kV 1kW switching PSU from a new
 > microwave -- maybe scaling the voltage to run directly "off line" ( the
out
 > of the box inventor approach)
 >
 > 4) Make their own transformer - it will take some nontrivial amount of
 > hours - but if hours are cheap and dollars dear, its a way to go (the
 > handtool craftsman approach - I am reminded of the PBS show where the guy
 > makes all manner of cool things out of wood, starting with chopping down
 > the tree)
 >
 > 5) Find a job that will exchange some of your excess hours for more money,
 > and then buy the $500 transformer (a variant on #1)
 >
 >
 > Regulatory hassles are omnipresent, but, at least in HV experimentation,
 > we're pretty much below the radar.  A totally different story if you
wanted
 > to, for instance, fool with a fission reactor in your garage, work with
 > explosive metal forming, high power rocketry, grow pathogenic organism,
 > develop high performance spread spectrum or cryptographic equipment.
 >
 >
 >
 > At 07:59 AM 3/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:
 > >Original poster: "Harvey Norris by way of Terry Fritz
 > ><teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <harvich-at-yahoo-dot-com>
 > >
 > >
 > >--- Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> wrote:
 > > > Original poster: "Dr. Resonance by way of Terry
 > > > Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com>
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > This past fall I paid a retired engineer from a
 > > > certain leading NST
 > > > manufacturer to set down with me for a day and help
 > > > develop a new design as
 > > > a replacement for those NST's that will soon be
 > > > unavailable even used.  The
 > > > new ones will be electronic in a few years and a
 > > > current limited
 > > > conventional NST will no longer be available.
 > >Surely this cannot be true?  What about the many
 > >transformers on EBAY?  If we are getting to the point
 > >that regulation can interupt a hobbiest's
 > >experimentation with  high voltage electrical
 > >phenomenon, this is a real blow for scientific
 > >freedom?  I can scarcely believe that ANY regulation
 > >could eliminate accessibility to a standard current
 > >limited  high voltage transformer, such as the NST is
 > >classified.  The mere thought of this kind of
 > >regulation gets me pig biting mad, (to use Ed Angers
 > >popular expression often found in the Weekly World
 > >News: I like to stay educated), (flames unreturnable) HDN
 >
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