Re: water filled tubing primary?

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Original poster: "robert heidlebaugh by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <rheidlebaugh-at-desertgate-dot-com>

Chris: in the past I have used liquid cooling of the spark gap electrodes by
circulating light oil through clear vinyl tubing into and out of 1/4" copper
tubing in a 1 Megawatt laser. The vinyl tubing acted as an insulator for the
20Kv supply. The oil provided cooling and did not conduct electricity. The
only differance with your use is my copper tubing was strait not coiled.
  Robert  H

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> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:58:13 -0600
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> Subject: Re: water filled tubing primary?
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> Original poster: "Christopher Boden by way of Terry Fritz
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> Reminds me of my famous idea for a water capacitor (long story). In theory,
> yes a water filled primary would work, then again, so does communism :) The
> technical drawbacks and complications would be serious though. As a rule
> water+HV is a bad idea, and things get really weird. *REALLY* pure water is
> actually an insulator, and they discharge the Z-Machine (a collection of
> connected GIGANTIC Marx banks that could accurately replicate the power of
> God sneezing) into a bog pool of water (from the pics I've seen it actually
> looks like it SITS in a tank of water. Though how you keep THAT much water
> THAT clean I have no idea. It works something like even putting electrodes
> in the water is enough to contaminate it to the point of no longer being an
> insulator or something, I don't know all the details (it's facinating
> though).
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> Using pins for teh tap would be bad because the contact point is *really*
> small. If it leaked you've got HV dripping all over. It's going to be
> *really* lossy (tubes of water are used for HV resistors on occasion). Etc
> ad nauseum.
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> It would be fun to tinker with though :) On a SMALL coil that you can easily
> overpower it would be fun, and a novel approach if nothing else.
> Good idea...maybe not practical, but good idea. :)
> 
> Keep inventing, you could never do worse than the Boden Density Capacitor :)
> so noone will ever make fun of ya for a crazy coiling idea.
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>>> Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
>>>>> <Beans45601-at-aol-dot-com>
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>>>> Could you (in theory) use water filled (lets say, 1/4 inch) tubing for
>>>> your
> primary?  I was thinking that you could fill the tubing, cap it off, then
> use
> needles to puncture the tubing to get to the water and thats how you would
> tap
> it and charge it. I know this has lots of flaws in the idea, but, could it
> be
> done?
> thanks
> Adam
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