Re: oil dielectric

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Original poster: "rheidlebaugh by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <rheidlebaugh-at-zialink-dot-com>

May I suggest, The heat of an arc is beyond the resolution of conventional
sensors, and metalic indicators are not practicat at 20kv and amps so set
your instraments back 100 years or so. A closed chamber of oil will expand
in proportion to temprature. Simply use a stand pipe connected with an elbow
from the base of your oil coil assembly. as the oil expands  it will rise in
the plastic stand pipe. you can mark the pipe like a thermometer and display
the _average temperature. All plastic no metal to arc to. A stand pipe from
the top would be simple, but no room there. After the oil is de-gassed it
should work well.
   Robert  H

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> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 15:08:18 -0600
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> Subject: Re: oil dielectric
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> Original poster: "Dale Nassar by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
> <dnassar-at-i-55-dot-com>
> 
> VERY STRANGE--I was thinking about that TODAY and its possible application
> to Tesla coils.  I am referring to that "healing" lightning strike--some
> time afterward, the woman was running and jumping--I saw it it on Unsolved
> Mysteries several years ago.  I always thought there are MANY undiscovered
> medical uses for the Tesla resonator!
> --dale nassar
> 
> 
> At 12:27 PM 5/18/02 -0600, you wrote:
>> Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
<Xyme3-at-aol-dot-com>
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>>> Paul: before oil burns you must reach the flash point temprature.
>> 
>>> If your oil is cool enough to handle you are well below this temp.
>> 
>> 
>> Suppose the coil is running.
>> Suppose the coil arcs over, in an unexpected way.
>> Suppose the arc hits the oil.
>> Suppose (since its an insulator) the oil gets a breakdown
>> UNDER it.  Now the arc is in the oil.
>> (hint:
>> This is why oils became unpopular in HV gear:
>> When something went wrong, the arc lit the oil.)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I can understand the very real events that can occur with oil.
>> If the dielectric of oil breaks down as you indicate, the
>> results would be catastrophic. When the dielectric of water
>> breaks down, particles of water are thrown off with such force
>> they can penetrate metal sheeting.Magnetic repulsion which is used
>> to lift trains, cannot compare to electric repulsion.
>> 
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>>>> I am sure a thermocouple could be added to cut off the power if
>>> 
>>>> the oil  starts to heat.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Heating by submerged arc, or arc to spilt oil is way
>>> fater than a thermocouple.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Agreed, the arc would be near light speeds.
>> 
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>>> 
>>>>> Yes there is a small risk. Life is a risk. The most dangerous
>>> 
>>>>> thing we do is take a bath,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Interesting, how is a bath dangerous?
>>> 
>>> Drown.  Slip and fall.
>>> (I suspect other things, eg auto accidents are more
>>> dangerous than baths.)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I saw a most interesting program about a woman who
>> was struck by lighting and completely healed of the viral
>> disease she had. I  think it was MS, and the doctors
>> said she would never walk again. She was running water
>> for her bath when her metal leg brace came in contact with the
>> iron tub. She was by eye witness accounts, blown across the
>> room from the lightning bolt and found several feet from her wheel
>> chair.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> but we risk this to remain social.  Nothing in the TC world is
>>> 
>>>> without risk.
>>> 
>>> Indeed.  But we can trimt he odss, and be aware of what
>>> the risks ARE.  (and, i suspect, if Tesla Coils were as
>>> widespread as bathtubs....)
>>> 
>>> best
>>> dwp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There is no point in putting preformance above
>> safty. There are other materials to examine..
>> Now i will go back to pondering a better dielectic.
>> Paul
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