Re: Experimental Help - Terry?

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Original poster: "Wall Richard Wayne by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <rwall-at-ix-dot-netcom-dot-com>

Terry, list,
>
>  
> "I" am far from convinced about the longitudinal radiation thing but I was
> thinking about trying to bounce it off reflectors to see if it was coherent
> or not.  Very precise antenna timing could be a possibility too.  Far from
> easy...  Terry
>  
> Terry, unfortunately detection with reflectors and antennae with our current 
> instruments is futile.  The reason is our current 2 nd order instruments are 
> basically designed to sense and detect either E or B fields.  That's what 
> past dependence on just orthodox EM theory has done to us.  Longitudinal 
> fields are at 90 degrees to both E and B.  Like trying to take a picture of
> an 
> object with a camera lens aimed 90 degrees away from the object.  A whole 
> new type of instrument will have to be developed to detect S.  Basically they
>
> will be third order detectors.  
>  
> S (source) => S (detector)=> E or B => standard 2nd order detector.
>  
>  ============
>  
> I have done some loss analysis with MicroSim:
>  
> Terry, unfortunately MicroSim is design around orthodox EM theory.  There is
> no 
> way it could ever detect longitudinal waves.  It's good for standard EM, but
> totally 
> lacking in explaining or modeling longitudinal waves.
>  
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> If they have a black plastic base with big brass blocks on the ends and a
> funny metallic strip in between, they work very poorly at RF.  Been there
> done that...  I would use current monitors like Pearson makes.  
>  
> Not exactly.  They are from old radio transmitters for measurement of RF
> currents. 
> Ed probably knows what I'm referring to.  They are about 14 " long and are
> made 
> of some type of metal alloy.  (Constantine ?)  The conductors are thin metal
> and 
> are about 1 1/8" wide.  Resistance is ~ .001 ohm calculated from stamped on
> values.
> The big one has three levels of these metal conductors about 1/8" stacked
> apart.
> They use the same RF principles as your fiber optic current shunts.  
>  
> ============
> If you can down load the data (needs the com card), you can put it into
> excel.  Someone (like Ross ;-)) with Labview and a TDS 210 like I used to
> have should be able to whip up a program to down load the data avoiding
> using TEK over priced software.
>  
> I don't have the com card. 8>(.
>  
>  
> I push the little button and the scope figures real time (or average or any
> math function) power and stores it all to floppy disk in excel data files
> or color scope captures. ;-)  Of course, it costs as mush as 200 cases of
> beer =:O but they do everything.
>  
> Salivate!
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> RWW