Re: Speed of Streamer formation

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Original poster: "rheidlebaugh by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <rheidlebaugh-at-zialink-dot-com>

as I was scanning the net I came across www.lod-dot-org/electrum/sphere20us.jpg
   This is a current picture of the secondary discharge streamers by Peter
Lawrence. I note the spikes of current in one polerity along with sign waves
and ringing. Spikes of current tend to rectify voltages and make DC with the
AC. Note: this is in the secondary. This suports My statement that stringers
are AC and DC. The world I live in is a dichotomy. + & -, AC & DC, when my
sweet wife kisses me I know my preferances.
   Robert  H

> From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:02:46 -0700
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> Subject: Speed of Streamer formation
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> Original poster: "davep by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
> <davep-at-quik-dot-com>
> 
> Tesla list wrote:
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>> Original poster: "Ed Phillips by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
> <evp-at-pacbell-dot-net>
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>> Tesla list wrote:
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>>> Original poster: "Jim Lux by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
>> <jimlux-at-earthlink-dot-net>
> 
>>>>> But streamer formation takes place in *far* less time than the time
>>>>> per cycle of oscillation.
> 
>>>> That's not my experience here.  When I first power up a
>>>> (relatively low power) coil the streamers sometimes appear to build
>>>> up over a period which seems like a second or more.
> 
>>> Indeed.. but what you're seeing might be a large scale manifestation of
>>> lots of small scale very fast things. Individual streamers/leaders/sparks
>>> might grow and shrink on a microsecond time scale, but your visual response
>>> is much slower, so what you perceive as gradually growing streamers might
>>> very well be a succession of ever longer streamers that last a much shorter
>>> time.
> 
>> Could be, as I have no way of observing the effect, but I suspect that
>> the streamers conduct along their whole length and, when enough power is
>> present, eventually form nice hot arcs.  I notice that Tesla's first
>> "wireless power" patent includes a statement to the effect that the
>> streamers spread "gradually".
> 
> I suggest that gradual growth of streamer length may be due
> to increasing number of ions present in the immediate
> vicinity.  Recombination (and air mixing) take a finite
> period of time...
> 
> best
> dwp
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